Top ten Irish boxers making waves in Britain

Its a pity you have such a closed mind - which I suspect contributes a lot to the problems you and your friends experience. The **** your people have gone through might explain a desire to leave the UK. I accept that. (Unlike you I am prepared to listen to somebody who has actually lived in a country, when they try and tell me about life there - I am quite happy to let a local (you!) fill me in. I accept that I dont "know it all".).

What I DONT understand is your mad desire for unification with the South, of all places.
At least as part of the UK you are part of a nation that has some track record for treating at least some of its people properly, at least some of the time.
The south has never managed to look after its affairs or its people properly. Not even some of them, not even some of the time. Not once. Ever. And it never will.

Its a bit like a Jew escaping from one of Hitlers death-camps - then rushing straight into one of Stalins! By all means break out of the one you're in - but ffs dont rush straight into another one!!

 

Because he's a bigot, to be blunt. He's an ideologue; that's his prerogative.

 

There is a correlation there, a pretty absolute one. The only divergence is that Catholics, if they do deviate from avowing an 'Irish' identity, are more likely than Protestants to avow a 'Northern Irish' identity.

 

The likes of Macklin and Fury's families are all Irish, they themselves claim to be Irish and in Macklin and Lee's cases they made their names fighting in Ireland.

In the North, it's really your own choice. Frampton sees himself as Irish, and he's living in Northern Ireland. He def doesn't see himself as British, as I, from Scotland, sure as **** don't see myself as a Brit either.

Sees like the only ones claiming these fighters and people to be British...are the English?

 

It's boxing not politics guys.

Wouldnt it be great to think we could all be one Nation that got on and worked together.

Instead more and more we want to be seen as seperate and that's progress!

 

mate u are under an illusion or maybe i should have made it clearer but the new Irish republic that we will fashion will not be the right wing **** hole that you live in now.. we will create something better with a social conscious something my party is already striving for:good

so what am I a bigot or an idealogue make your mind up:blood... so going by your thinking anyone that wants a unitied ireland is a bigot.... thats the sort of atitude that has people being coy about their irish identity on goverment forms/census then voting in over whelming numbers for sinn fein and the sdlp during elections:good

 

Frampton is British, he has stated it before, he only faught for the Irish team as he stood no chance of being selected for the amatuer British team which again he has stated

He grew up in a British housing estate, learnt his boxing trade in a boxing club in said housing est, his whole family is British... The irish fans know this, they know the politics of it too

Now he decides these days not to affiliate himself with either side so not to throw back what he has got from the Irish boxing association and the people who supported him during his amatuer career, it's the type of guy he is...

I have zero problem with this it's just frustrating when the Irish fans who know his background claim him to be 100% Irish, he's nvr even fought a professional fight in Irleand for goodness sake!

Either way the whole country gets behind which is 1: what he wants and 2: a good thing for the unity of the people in Northern Ireland, long may it and his winning ways continue

 

more rubbish from u...

a question 4 u... im an irish republican.. and will be there to support frampton tomorrow nite...but if frampton was a catholic would u still be there

 

Actually it was a lot harder for Frampton to get on the irish team than it would have been to get on the british team than the irish team. He had to compete with David Oliver Joyce at featherweight and if he tried down at bantemweight he would have had to compete with John Joe Nevin. Both better opposition than he would have had to face to get on the british team.

And all boxers from the North fight for Ireland that i can remember, can you name a Northern boxer in recent memory that choose to fight for Britian in recent times

 

U know the politics Fra don't try and deny it!

When has he fought professionally in Ireland?

From what I've seen any comments I've made I have backed up with facts and sources, u only come out with fictional biased nonsense with no evidence to back up ur claims, like people don't put ther nationality as Irish on the census because if they do they won't get a job, aha

 

Not u again? Have u not embarrassed urself enough in this thread?

 

can you not answer yourself ? i pointed out that it was actually harder to get on the irish team and i asked you to name a boxer from northern ireland that chose to represent Britain in the past instead of ireland,

its a simple enough question so stop procrastinating and answer it

 

I am simply going by what Carl Frampton has said himself

Feel free to answer any of the other questions I put to you which u declined to answer

 

i back my political facts up with votes for nationalist parties not with bull**** census... u being a loyalist dont know the catholic mindset...ffs a census worker was shot in derry back in the day...thats the sort of mistrust we have for the british...

the fact is no one forces u to vote... but you are forced by law to fill in a census:good

 

can you send me a link of where he said that?

because all boxers from the north over recent history have always choosen to represent ireland and it has nothing to do with not being able to get on the british team