Mike Tyson vs George Foreman (1991)

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  1. Ali Frazier

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    Would it be Foreman’s huge right hand and rock solid chin or Tyson’s crippling combinations and pure menace in the ring?
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Tyson would likely win but he'd have to eat leather to do it, and wouldn't get george out of their early. Foreman had a vastly improved defense in his comeback. Could fight with both arms. Had a fairly sturdy chin and could still crack. He also tied up smaller men who got close to him fairly well. Mike would likely break him down late and force either a referee stoppage or a corner retirement. But I wouldn't be surprised to see it go to the cards either.
     
  3. Ali Frazier

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    He'd try and get rid of him early which is why I think Foreman would drop him Round 4

    At any other time in their careers I would pick Tyson to beat Foreman, but at this particular time, Foreman had a very realistic chance of not only winning, but stopping Iron Mike. In 1991, Tyson was not the same fighter that ripped through the division a few short years earlier and Foreman was still a patient, dangerous puncher who knew how to put a man to sleep. It was a small window of opportunity for Foreman but 1991 would have been his time to pull it off.
     
  4. SILVER SKULL 66

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    Tough fight to call I wouldn't bet on it, either way, if anyone gets stopped here it's Tyson..
    I can't see Tyson outboxing Foreman the way Holyfield did:nono, he didn't have the talent height, reach, ability, stamina, or chin/or the iron will Holyfield had..
    I lean more towards George in this one.
     
  5. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    I agree. Tyson was losing interest in the sport and starting to go off the rails even further in his personal life. Judging by the Ruddock fights I believe Foreman has a very good chance. Razor had some great physical tools but didn`t know how to set up his attack the way Foreman did.

    Tyson was begging to be hit with a right hand in those fights with Ruddock and Foreman would be deliver it behind that heavy jab. It would be a barnburner early and I can`t right off Mike Tyson because he could drop anyone he catches but Foreman`s style advantage along with his mental toughness and determination I gotta lean towards Big George.
     
  6. Sangria

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    Ruddock was a more dangerous fighter than Foreman was in 1991. Would've been nice to see those two match up.

    Tyson would maul Foreman here. He had a similar work rate to Holyfield but was obviously the harder hitter. I think Foreman gets swelled up badly, not dissimilar to the Stewart fight, and might lose the fight on his feet. I actually envision Foreman falling hard.
     
  7. Unforgiven

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    There are two distinct schools of thought on this one. Both valid.
    Some see Tyson's speed as being far too much for Foreman.
    Others view Foreman's sheer physical strength and bullying presence as being Tyson's kryptonite.

    I would fall into the second camp. Even in his absolute prime I can't see Tyson being elusive enough to do his thing with Foreman.
    Against Foreman you have to be able to fight on the backfoot a bit - I don't care who you are.

    Ruddock was a relative weakling in comparison with Foreman.
     
  8. robert80

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    Did you folks know that cus said that mikes style, would be conducive to a brutal beating from george!!
     
  9. rski

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    91 Tyson was still too fast and powerful for old Foreman. He was also durable and went a full 12 with Rudduck after catching some big punches, I'm not even convinced George would land the same volume of power punches as Ruddock did, he was too slow in his delivery, might catch Mike with one or two but wouldn't be enough.

    I never really understood this argument, I know many think old George could have pulled it off but I don't see it in a million years. Evandar landed a 20 punch combination on George, its not inconceivable that Tyson could land a similar combination, if he did it would be a TKO at the least. 91 Tyson had regressed a bit but was still dangerous, I even think that version of Tyson was too big and powerful for Evandar at that time.

    young George would be different but old George was too lumbering and slow for a quick powerful and durable Tyson. I had a feeling that Evandar carried George through some of their fight as well, I think he could have got the TKO but let the old man finish the fight standing.
     
  10. Unforgiven

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    Thing is, it's not really about Foreman just trying to land some big punches.
    It's about all the other stuff Foreman did too. When he was coming forward, you're gonna to get pushed back, and spun round, and roughed up. If you go straight into him, it's suicidal. Holyfield bounced side to side, I can only imagine Tyson coming straight forward, and low, and a bit squared-up, giving Foreman ample opportunity to impose himself. It's not as if Foreman just stands back and tries to land big punches ... he's an expert at using his full strength and pushing guys back.
    It's not a good match for Tyson, but yeah, he could a killer combination before Foreman takes too much out of him.
    Shame the fight never happened.
     
  11. rski

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    I see what you are saying but Tyson did have the ability to step to the side and land a body punch or uppercut. If George is going to walk him down he might have to take some big punishment on the inside, Tyson was good and those short punches, even if he was leaned on. I could see George lasting the distance with this tactic if he could tie Mike up but I think he would have to land something as well to make it fully effective, and I'm not convinced he could.
     
  12. Stevie G

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    Tyson would have won on points at this stage.
     
  13. Azzer85

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    Cus was referring to the '73 george, not the 73 year old george :good
     
  14. Azzer85

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    if tyson fights a smart, disciplined fight, he should win this. im not sure how big george would react to tysons body shots, i dont know if anyone ever worked old georges body.
     
  15. Sangria

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    Than so was Bowe, Lewis, Mercer and every other rated heavyweight contender in 1991. Ruddock had the smarts to tie Tyson up to stall his attack, something Foreman couldn't, or wouldn't, replicate. He was also faster than Old Foreman and wouldn't have trouble with the Ken Lakusta's of the world. So he didn't have Foreman's girth, but that never stopped Alex Stewart from rearranging...never mind. :!:

    Does anyone see Foreman beating Ruddock in '91? I think that's a better match up than pitting George and Mike.