What grade do you give to James Toney's resume?

resume is not just wins but who you actually fought win or lose

 

A- in my opinion. Some excellent wins over very good fighters spattered with some disappointed performances based more on his out of the ring discipline rather than in ring abilities.

 

A+. Nunn and McCallum were better than any fighter out there today and I include Mayweather in that. Tim Littles and Prince Charles Williams were terrific too.

 

I believe his biggest threat at SMW was actually Roy Jones, and he did fight him. Toney fought all the best US-based fighters at a time when his divisions were the best lb4lb in boxing.

Reggie Johnson was as slick as a greaseball back then.

 

:deal

 

McCallum I believe was 33 when he fought Toney, not 36. He had never looked better in his career than he had against Michael Watson, and avenged the Kalambay defeat. Two masterclasses going into the all-time Boxing 101 joint-show with Toney.

 

Technical boxing at its best McCallum was past his prime when he fought RJJ

 

that is true, Jones outclassed Toney, but the Eubank and Benn fights would have made his resume even better had they fought, both guys were dangerous at SMW at the time, and Toney would have in my view beaten both of them

 

James Toney to me is the #1 fighter in history because only Tyson became champion quicker and younger than James Toney, but Toney's competition was so much better than Tyson's. Nunn and Jones > Berbick and Douglas. You see? Ali can't boast Toney's comp. Nunn was better than Ali himself and Eddie Futch rated McCallum better than Norton. Ray Robinson can't boast Toney's comp - Iran Barkley, the man who destroyed Tommy Hearns and ultra-talented 'New Ray Leonard' Michael Olajide, was even more initimidating and dangerous than LaMotta.

 

They fought about six months apart? So how could he be 33 in one fight and 36 six months later?

 

How does his resume compare to Roy Jones's?

 

I was with you until what u said about Ray Robinson and Ali

 

Night and day. Hopkins, Reggie, Hill and McCallum were all eight years away from their best when Jones fought them, and Jones officially ducked Nunn when Nunn was eight years away from his best! Even Sosa and Thornton were just Toney leftovers all washed up.

Toney fought Nunn, Reggie and McCallum all at their v.best back-to-back in about half a year total at 22. Tim Littles was a different league to any of Jones's super-middle challengers, and Prince Charles Williams was never the same after Toney laid him out beautifully. I believe Jones may of been too intimidated to fight Bronx's Iran Barkley, being from a farm. Jirov was more formidable than any of Jones's light-heavy challenges. And Holyfield was a legend - John Ruiz was not.

 

B+