The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

Fixed that. Theres a difference between beltholders and champions. Don't act like a title means much in an era where there are 4 belts per class and bums galore. If victor Ortiz was a champion that proves how meaningless a belt itself is. Good job at taking facts out of context.

And for the record - no, Diego Corrales, Zab Judah, Cory Spinks, Castillo, past prime Tzyu, past prime Azumah Nelson do not count as elite/great wins that make an elite fighter for the aforementioned (paper) champions

 

Manny beat up a scarecrow that couldn't hit back if it wanted.

 

He ducked prime Pacquiao, Margarito, Paul Williams, prime Cotto, non ancient Mosley, Kostya Tzyu, Hatton at 140, Canelo at 154, Paul Spadafora, etc

currently ducking Lara and (still) Pacquiao

 

Gatti? Seriously? Where the f*ck are some of these posters coming from? I love Gatti for his heart and warrior spirit but Gatti had no business fighting Mayweather. Gatti had been schooled by lesser boxers already. Only complete nob, Floyd nuthuggers, and trolls would claim that was a win of any significance.

 

garbage.

pacquiao never refused the drug test.

pacquiao was willing to take urine test at anytime all the way to fight day.

pacquiao was willing to have his blood tested up to 24 days before the fight and just after the fight.

...if you're going to attack pac for this, you better have something more.

 

My understanding was that Floyd wanted up to fight night and Pac said no. That in itself is HIGHLY suspicious. However, Floyd moved to 14 day to which Pac agreed but by the time Pac agreed, Floyd took it off the table.
They are both fools.Manny for some dumb excuses and Floyd for not making a fight he was always likely going to win. History will probably fault Floyd more because he is the better fighter.

 

I was thinking the same thing!

 

And months later, when Pacquiao ultimately accepted all the testing demands the diva was making Floydette decided to go on vacation all of sudden, ¨lost his urge¨

from that point onwards it's been roablock after roadblock thrown by the cherrypicker, now it's pretty much clear someone was just looking for an excuse to duck the fight

People knows who's the real ***** here, but there'll always be cum guzzling *****s like the TS trying to re-write history

 

The boxing world at large disagreed with you and that just goes to show that YDKSAB.

 

Floyd wanted the standard drug testing procedure, which does not have a predetermined cutoff date for testing. Practically speaking though, there's no way any blood would drawn be within a few days of the fight. Regardless, Mayweather's side offered a 14 day cutoff as a last ditch effort to reach a deal. Pacquiao's side said no, ended the negotiations, and lied about getting a 2 week cutoff offer. It was after this that Mayweather pulled any drug testing offer that included a pre determined cutoff date.

 

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....cut off offered was 24 days before the fight but there's going to be a blood test after the fight.

urine test was always there and it was available all the way to fight day.

 

standard testing procedure does not involve blood test 24 days before the fight.

.....and this debate has already been fought and outcome has already been determined. floyd ducked the fight.

 

Look at what happened in 2012. Mayweather was scheduled to report to jail that January. The week he was due to report to jail, Arum was talking about staging a Pacquiao fight on May 5th. The very next day after it was announced that Mayweather wouldn't have to report to jail until June, Arum claimed Pacquiao couldn't fight in May because of cut. Then it changed to the fight had to take place in June(knowing full well Mayweather would be in jail in June) because Arum wanted to build a stadium that he claimed would being in a $60M gate(total bull****).

Eventually, it got so bad that Mayweather resorted to calling up Manny himself to try to make the fight.everyone focuses on Mayweather's $40M offer(negotiating 101, you never make your best offer with the initial offer), but none seems to care that he took the unusual step of trying to negotiate the fight himself, or that Pacquiao seemed to have little interest in negotiating.

 

The stadium excuse was one of the all time dumbest excuses...but if you call Floyds phone call to Manny a real offer then you are being ignorant. Floyd doesnt negotiate ANY of his own fights let alone the biggest fight of the last 30 years. That was bullsh*t too.

 

No **** standard USADA testing doesn't include a 24 day cutoff. That was some nonsense that Pacquiao requested. It started as a request for a 30 day cutoff. It only changed once video came out of Pacquiao getting blood tested 24 days before the Hatton fight. Even worse, he went back to training the next day even though he would later claim that he couldn't train for 3 days after getting blood drawn.