The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

circumstantial evidence, but yes.

he is on it. trt at the very least.

 

I agree with this. i really like Pacman, but he has too many clear cut disadvantages skills-wise vs Floyd.

What compounds that problem are the physical disadvantages as well- Floyd is 2 inches taller and has about a 5 inch reach advantage. So FLoyd would be the naturally larger guy with the better overall skillset going into that fight.

 

Name someone other than Pac who had issues with testing to fight PBF? No one and they shouldn't if they're clean. No one that is clean will have a problem with taking a drug test period. Especially if it's for a career high payday and a chance to shut up the guy who believes you're dirty.

Mosley tested Ortiz tested Cotto tested Guerrero tested Canelo tested and Maidana tested why? Because they knew they were clean and had no problems with it, all of them said it was a good thing to have, some even implemented it in other bouts.

Pac had problems with it for years yet all of a sudden when he gets KTFO and put into a coma by JMM he wants testing for Rios. Really pathetic when you think about it. He ducked PBF plain and simple the fight was basically a done deal but he walks because of testing, yet you Pac fans let him have a pass for this??? If it was the other way around and it was Pac asking for testing and PBF who had excuses you PBF haters would have a field day and he would be run outta the sport and rightfully so. Be real with yourself man you know it's bull****.

Pac's star has diminished, he got put into a coma is 1-2 in his last 3 fights. The guy is struggling for PPV buys this fight with Bradley isn't selling well and he's not going to ever make 40 million that PBF offered him with any payday. Sounds like to me that was a very generous offer because he won't sniff that amount ever again.:deal Meanwhile PBF just came off a record breaking PPV signed the richest contract in sports is P4P #1 and is on top of the boxing world. So I don't know what delusional world you live in because not only has his star diminished it's almost dead, hell his own trainer said if he loses this fight he will ask Pac to retire so don't tell me about his star factor. I'll show you further, 2009 50/50 split 2014 Pac would be jumping for joy with a 60/40 split these are facts not spin.:hi:

 

Freddie Roach:

"Getting knocked out enhances ones' legacy!"

 

2009 was the closest we ever came to having the fight and Pac pulled out because of testing. Deal with it.:hi: He only now since the Rios fight has agreed to testing. Before that he was full of ****.

 

Oh yeah? What does he do to raise suspicion?

You say he duck tough fighters
You say he pay off his cherry picked opponents
You say he is a coward

With all that said, why would he need PEDs? If he was on them, why would he be scared of any fighter? Also, I thought 'health comes first'.. PEDs are terrible for you health in the long run.. What's the point of using PEDs if your scared of everyone and ducking everyone?

 

:deal

 

So let me guess that what all Arum's fault yeah ,did Floyd just agree to everything Arum said ?


" We agreed to 154 pounds, we agreed to another morning weight because they were concerned about the weight -- Winky couldn't gain more than eight pounds above 154."


"When I was in Arum's office he talked about different splits," recalled Shaw, who said at that time the numbers he was told differed from the ones he had agreed to. "I started to yell, I said, 'It's gotta be 50-50.' He said, 'All right, all right. Why are you yelling? I'm just the messenger. Come back, we'll do the deal.' I walked downstairs here at the Beverly Hills Hotel, I said, 'We have a deal?' He looked at me and said, '55-45.' I said, 'No, 50-50. He said, 'There's no deal.' "





That sure is a allot of stipulations from team Mayweather for a guy who really wanted the fight ..

Than the split so you think Arum changed his mind over night ?


You will never get a disagreement from me regarding what he did south of 140 ..He was a monster but north of it. it's has been a joke .

And who said Floyd was a scrub my biggest issue is his showcases .His matchmaking has been embarrassing for a guy with such talent !

And 3 or 4 tune ups well his last 2 out of 3 fights were tune up level and prior to that he only fought once a year .

And the guys he's facing now is not the best in the division and you even know that .

 

Floyd is slick inside and outside the ring. He did a fine job to get out of a

fight.If you want to know how to duck someone ask Floyd. He's a pro at it.

Ducked Margarito and now Pacquiao.


:yep

 

On December 30, 2009, Manny Pacquiao sued Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Sr. (Floyd’s father), Roger Mayweather (Floyd’s uncle and trainer), Mayweather Promotions, Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer and Oscar De la Hoya for defamation. Pacquiao’s complaint, filed in the United States District Court of Nevada, alleged that each of the defendants had falsely accused him of using, and continuing to use, illegal performance-enhancing drugs.



Mayweather has gone to great lengths to position himself in the public mind as a “clean” fighter. For his three most recent fights (against Shane Mosley, Victor Ortiz and Miguel Cotto), he has mandated that he and his opponent be subjected to what he calls “Olympic-style testing” by the United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA).







USADA is an independent non-governmental sports drug-testing agency whose services are utilized by the United States Olympic and Paralympic movement. It receives approximately $10,000,000 annually in public funding, more in years when the Olympics are held. USADA was paid a reported $100,000 per fight for the drug-testing services it performed in conjunction with Mayweather’s outings.



Victor Conte is one of the most knowledgeable people in sports with regard to the use of, and testing for, performance-enhancing drugs. In 1984, Conte founded the Bay Area Laboratory Co-Operative (BALCO), which was at the heart of several much-publicized PED scandals. In 2005, he pled guilty to charges of illegal steroid distribution and tax fraud and spent four months in prison. After being released from incarceration, Conte moved to the side of the angels and is now a formidable advocate for “clean” sport.



“Mayweather is not doing Olympic-style testing,” Conte states. “I’ve never liked the use of that phrase. ‘Olympic’ means 24-7-365. To be effective, drug testing has to be 24 hours a day, seven days a week, 365 days a year. The benefits that an athlete retains from using anabolic steroids and certain other PEDs carry over for months. That means athletes can develop their strength and speed base early and the benefits of PED use will last after that use has been discontinued. If you wait to start testing until eight to 10 weeks in advance of a fight, which is what Mayweather does, that’s not Olympic-style testing. Who knows what Mayweather or his opponent has been doing during the previous six months?”

 

People are going to feel awfully stupid criticizing his 147+ resume when emotions can reside long after he is retired.

His last 10 opponents have been amazing.

Baldomir, Mosley, Cotto, and Alvarez were all either lineal champion and/or consensus #1 in their division. Not every ATG has ever fought 4 #1 ranked fighters. A surprising number have not.

Hatton and JMM were #1 in divisions south of WW moving up. Every ATG has fought fighters moving up in weight, but rarely are they future HOF'ers who were #1 in the division they just migrated from.

Judah, Ortiz, Oscar, and Guerrero were all consensus top 5 of the division Floyd fought them at (Oscar at JMW is questionable). This is routine of ATG's, to face top 10 opponents. That is what is expected.

Name me an ATG who had a stretch of 10 opponents who all met one of the above three stipulations.

I will wait.

Thank you.

Amazing stretch at WW/JMW. Not enough to be an ATG of those divisions, perhaps, but in combination with the rest of his career; something to behold and appreciate. Don't know how it can be discredited other than blind venomous hatred or jealousy.

 

I'm not making excuses for him not facing WInky, not at all. I think it might've been too ambitious for calling Wright out at that current time when Floyd was campaigning a few divisions beneath him.

And how exactly has his matchmaking been embarassing at 147 and 154 lbs? Keep in mind since he jumped to 147 he took on a very game Judah, the undisputed WW champ (Baldomir,) and than took on the PPV king at the time in DLH.

He had a bunch of semi retirements after the DLH fight- what exactly was wrong with the guys he was fighting? It's not like they were tomato cans, he came back after fighting DLH and took on a widely recognized top 10 P4P undefeated fighter in Hatton who had been campaigning at 147 for a few fights, he took on JMM after a 2 year layoff at a catchweight, he beat Cotto, he took on a young Ortiz and a dangerous MOsley who just beat Margs after a long layoff, he had a long layoff and went to jail and beat up a solid fighter coming off a big win in Guerrero.

Than he took on Canelo, a guy who was considered to be a serious threat to him.

I get it, he didn't take on Pacman or Sergio Martinez at 154 or Paul WIlliams at 147, but he kept taking 1 year layoffs and coming back and fighting solid competition. It's not like his management team had been serving him club fighters, most of these guys he's been beating the last 7 years are HOF bound.

Off the top of my head, since Floyd went up to 147 he's beaten several HOF'ers. DLH is a HOF'er, Hatton will be, JMM, Cotto and MOsley are sure-fire ones, Alvarez looks like he's on his way there. That's 5-6 HOF guys he has victories over since jumping up to 147 lbs. I wouldn't say he's had the easiest road in the world to becoming the best fighter in the sport.

 

your an idiot

duckweather 147 wins are nothing to shout about he made hatton come up and fight at 147 (not his best weight) and took 10 rounds to knock him out when hatton was coming in face first all night


then me made jmm come up looking fat again nothing to shout about

then he fights ortiz who i called a bum and have been proven right

 

Hatton = Hall of Famer; yes, clearly not a good weight for him. But does Marvin Hagler get zero credit for beating Thomas Hearns, who had never competed at middleweight before ever? Or former lightweight Duran at middleweight? Don't be a hypocrite...

JMM = Hall of Famer; proved his worth at WW in his future matches with Pacquiao

Ortiz = bum or not, when the fight was signed and when it happened, everyone everywhere ranked him #3 at WW only behind Mayweather himself and Pacquiao

 

FLoyd has 5-6 HOF scalps on his resume since going up to 147 lbs.

Since fighting DLH in 2007, he's had 8 fights, and 5-6 of them have been against HOF fighters-- DLH, Cotto, Hatton, JMM, Mosley are 5 definite ones. Alvarez has a very good shot at becoming a HOF'er also.

How anyone tries to say he's been taking on tomato cans since fighting at 147 lbs is just silly.