The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why, because those were the years where Psc fans say he was so great and so dangerous (after beating Cotto, Hatton, ODLH) this is the period when Floyd wanted the Pac fight the most! He cane out of retirement, toyed with Manny's nemesis JMM and then offered Pac 50/50 to be his next opponent! This is the 2009, 2010, KO artist Pac we talking about here!

    That version of Manny clearly ducked Floyd cause he didn't want to take a drug test, Floyd continued to negotiate with Manny, offering him cut off dates all the way up to Manny aborting the negotiation and signing to fight Clottey! Floyd was still waiting for Pac to sign the contract at that time, he was completely dissed by Top Rank and stood up! Pac fans celebrated this decisions yelling that's right Manny u don't have to take no drug test!

    So let's be real the perceived best version of Manny Pacquiao DUCKED Floyd!! In 2009/2010 Pac didn't want it, obviously Clottey and no OST was where Manny wanted to be.
     
  2. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Noticed who got all these demands. It's your ***** idol Mr Mayweather clucker.

    When the last time you see a boxer ask for these g'damn demands?Glove size, drug test and having a certain promoter so the fight can be made?

    Even if Pacquiao agrees to these term the mofo has another demand he wants. No ******e Beiber type haircut?
    Whats next?

    Don't bring Usada Mr *****.There have been rumors of cover up by USADA wont release results.
     
  3. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Would be an easy fight for floyd 9-3 I imagine. After two rounds pacs speed would be negated floyd will have adjusted and start beatin his ass. Manny's leaky D going to be able to stay away from the lead right's and check hooks?
     
  4. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    you just went from semi reasonable to complete ******* ****** mode in 1 post... jesus man..

    you dont even know the history.. glove size and ring size were agreed to straight away, there were no issues.

    pac had the 10m weight demand floyd had the drug testing. pac walked away while may agreed to pacs demand straight away and even gave pac leeway on his demand of testing by offering 14 day cutoff. and as you can see from my post there are FACTUAL (thats a key word here) quotes and interviews where bob arum himself comes up with 99 ****ing excuses some of which are disgustingly obvious that he did not want his cash cow to fight floyd. just like he did not want his cash cow floyd to fight oscar delahoya back in the day.

    im not sure what more i can do.. you seemed reasonable so i was happy to take the time to talk with you but you turned into a complete ****ing ******? calling me a ***** ? how am i a ***** im posting facts ?
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My biggest issue why would you trust or do business with a boxer that beat women up, sucker punches boxers and g damn hypocrite. Dude has to control everything.

    Pacquiao never said no to drug test. If i remember correctly he agreed to certain cut off.14 day cut off or some ****.
    With unlimited urine. My other issue with this is who does it? USADA those mofo are ****!!

    We know Pacquiao wants the fight. We know who keeps asking for demands be met. Therefor we know who the coward is that has been ducking for a long time now.

    Hopefully Fairy Floyd Mayflower mans up.
     
  6. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    what do you mean TRUST? pacs team clearly did not trust him hence the 10m per lb penalty clause put in place which mayweather agreed to ?

    and he did not have to control everything. like i have pointed out in my posts he gave pac more then he deserved in 2009 and was more then willing to compromise and give him a 14 day cutoff offer

    what are you getting at ?
     
  7. icarus1

    icarus1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    even the top atg's were beat by lesser known opponents. the fab 4 is way above fmj and they have losses. there's your answer. no one is unbeatable. every fighter is unique and take into consideration the conditions of the fighters during their fight
     
  8. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac has made quite a living from the hype of three overrated wins a row (DLH, Hatton, Cotto) not sure we'll ever see the right ingredients for a phenomenon like this ever again. The combination of how popular they were at the time, the fact he beat them consecutively, and how he beat them brewed a perfect storm of hype. Not even lack of another KO/TKO win, a loss, a face plant, and two highly controversial fights since in the seven fight four year aftermath have killed the level of hype he achieved. Simply amazing what can happen when you fight the right guys, or catch them at the right time in combination of exceeding expectation.
     
  9. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    of course no one is unbeatable i agree and i think tommy hearns and to a lesser extent srr would have decapitated floyd as stylistically i think they match up well against him. but there is no hearns or robinson in floyds era. im not sure what you are getting at.. please elaborate
     
  10. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    get this TMZ bull**** out of here
     
  11. P.M.

    P.M. Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Floyd fought Canelo, a guy bigger, stronger and young. A guy they said he would never fight. At this point I believe its not floyd its bob, TR and hbo stopping this fight. There is no way gb and TR are going to work together, if pacquiao really wanted to fight he would flex his power and do the deal. He walked away because of blood test, he walked away from 40mil the most he would have ever made. Who's really ducking who?
     
  12. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're blind if you don't think he's scared, so much evidence pointing towards it I dont even know how people could still deny this.
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    yes pacquiao declined 14 days! he wanted 21 days i think. pretty sure floyd wanted USADA to do it... "those mofo are ****" thats an interesting argument

    how do we know pac wants the fight ? he keeps hiding behind his promoter who (if you have read my posts above) clearly does not want this fight to happen.... yet is more then happy to withhold the money he owes mayweather and continues to bad mouth him

    im not sure how after all thats happened you can honestly say "pac wants the fight" or "floyd is clearly ducking"..

    do me a favour.. flip the roles for a second.. lets imagine floyd turned down a blood test after manny even said ok it wont be up until the day im willing to meet you half way and give you 14 days and floyd went NOPE and signed to fight clottey

    dont act like you would not be badmouthing him about it till this very day..(and rightfully so ill add)

    its actually sad i thought you were a decent poster :( but your just twisting whatever you can to push your agenda...
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Dumb post you're out of your league in this discussion log off.
     
  15. Enigmadanks

    Enigmadanks Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Even Freddie Roach has mentioned recently he truly doesn't believe FLoyd is scared of Manny.

    WHat's been said countless times by many people involved in both camps is Floyd isn't actually scared of Manny, he just didn't like the fact that the purse split would be so close.

    Even when 50 and Floyd had their issues, 50 even mentioned FLoyd isn't scared whatsoever of Pacman, he just had a big issue with how much Pacman was going to stand to make monetarily against FLoyd.

    50 mentioned that this is a big problem of FLoyd, that he cares way too much what his opponents make and if he thinks they'd be getting too much, than he stops negotiations with them.

    Is he arrogant? Yes. A true narcissist? Absolutely. But he's not scared of Manny Pacquiao or Timothy Bradley.

    A guy with almost 50 pro fights is probably not scared of anyone in and around his weight division. Sorry but him taking on Canelo pretty much proves the point that he doesn't mind taking on dangerous fighters. People want to discredit Alvarez now because no one expected him to get dominated the way he did. It's kind of becoming the norm with FLoyd's opposition to get dominated.
     
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