A 50% pacquiao just beat the third best fighter on the planet!

what do you think floyd is at now ? 100% ?

 

yeh id say 75-80 percent.

 

Why not? What has changed apart from that he became a more intelligent fighter and removed his flaws?
If Pac-May fight happened after Cotto fights, Pac would win. Now - no way. I would be surprised though, if fight happens. Pac can leave now, and this would be a clever decision. But the amount of money he can get from Mayweather fight may totally change his mind. On the other hand, May sees no danger in Manny after this fight. No danger - biggest money ever. This would even be weird if he doesn't fight him now.

 

we all do bro, we all do.

after tonights performance he is clearly the second best fighter in the ww division and is 3 or 4 p4p and at what he has allready achieved and after the knockout loss he has suffered as of late thats a pretty huge achievement.

i was watching the fight today thinking "pac is winning this" but then turned to my mate and said "you know what, his winning... but the way he looks.. i honestly think mayweather would not just beat him he would prob make him look silly like almost every other fighter he has faced" and my mate 100% agreed and he is a huge pac fan

the problem is pac is still good but he has lost the key elements that make up his style. power and killer instinct. i seen very small glimpses of it in the bradley fight and i know its still there.. after the critics said it about him he brought it back for the marquez 4th fight but after what happened i think he just sealed it away for good.

 

How exactly do you come to the conclusion that he is literally half the fighter that he was in 2008???

Looks pretty similiar to me. He was looking great before Marquez KO'd him.

 

he has always been a very intelligent fighter even as far back as his 130 days in my opinion. obviously he has replaced the speed and reflexes he has lost with increased IQ and alot more comfort in the ring. so its kind of a trade off. i also thought in the cotto fights you could see his stamina lacking and that was a fight where floyd beat cotto at his own game roughing up on the inside. in the guerrero and the alvarez fights he fought exactly how he wanted setting the pace and his untirable stamina made a return. the old floyd could adapt to a fast, action packed fight. i think his stamina has taken a hit and he is now alot more susceptible to this, manny has never been able to FORCE a fight as he has trouble engaging and cutting off the ring and he has clearly lost some stamina aswell (both bradley fights show this in my opinion) which is why i think pac right now poses very little risk to floyd.

 

pay no attention. it was the same pacman that was koed by jmm. the same one that beat rios and the same one that did everything else in his career. pacman beat bradley worse the 1st fight so you can flip it and say pacman did worse in the rematch against tim, or did time to better ? see what i mean how do YOU want to flip is all that is.

 

thats one fight and that fight alone took the killer instinct from him as he was able to resurrect the old pac but it got him KO'd .. that type of knockout effects you. i dont think we will see that pac return.

he is about as fast as he was in 2008 but he seems to have lost a chunk of power and killer instinct... and thats basically mannys key elements.

if floyd lost almost all of his power it would hinder him but not as much as manny losing it because floyds style relies more on timing, counterpunching and defensive wizardry. get what im saying ?

 

but what about bob arums 99 excuses :http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11512.html


? and the fact floyd as the champ offered him 50/50 split and agreed to pacs demands of 10m per lb weight penalty. he was also willing to negotiate the blood testing issue and offered 14 days after pac rejected floyds original offer of up until the day of the fight

remember this was when both fighters were prime... this was when pac was at his most dangerous. at this time floyd chose to offer all that

sorry mate but you cant blame floyd.. you can prob blame him now for holding up the fight but thats about it

 

this :deal . i saw pac unleash a few of those long extended straight lefts tonight that landed flush on bradley and bradley took it well.. me and my fellow boxer and fan friend sat there explaining to the other 4 members of our group watching the fight that those exact left hands a few years back PUT YOU DOWN...