Is Bradley really P4P material?

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  1. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    he lost the first fight clear and went life & dead with Ruslan P. He beat Alexander, who really should've had 4 L's on his record. The only really good win i see are Ruslan (Which some felt he lost) and Marquez (Which status in the P4P are due to he has Manny's number) I mean no way he can be #3 P4P which some suggests, i'd say maybe 8-10 but no way near the Top 5.
     
  2. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    fighters get put in the p4p standing sometimes for how they do against pacman or floyd.

    Take Lara for example doesnt have a p4p top ten resume at all but many people have him in there top ten because they think he would give Floyd a difficult fight
     
  3. Alexander should have 4 Ls?

    Which fights are you referring too? Kotelnik, Bradley, Porter, and who?

    EDIT: And yes, Bradley is P4P material. He beat guys like Miguel Vasquez (who is a champion at lightweight), Lamont Peterson (in which some people are idiotically favoring to beat Matthyse in a rematch), wrecked Alexander (who beat Maidana, the next guy that Floyd is fighting), and outboxed Juan Manuel Marquez (I don't care what people say, that fight wasn't close).

    Pacquiao is just levels above him. But Mayweather is a few levels above Pacquiao.
     
  4. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    floyd cherry picks yet is ranked high. fighters deserve to be ranked by the quality of opposition they face and beat
     
  5. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    I rate Bradley in the "very good" category, and very good fighters often make P4P lists.

    The P4P rankings aren't exactly that strong nowadays. For crying out loud, Sergio Martinez is high on the rankings, and last time I checked, Canelo ****ing Alvarez and Carl Froch were in the top 10.
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    1. I hate it when people say 'but look at Bradley, he went life to death with Provodnikov'. Provo is a top fighter, Bradley got into a fight with Provo, he exposed himself to the jaws of the lion and proved aspects of his character and abilities.


    2. Bradley made easy work of Alexander and Peterson, both good fighters. Let's not pretend that Peterson is the sum of the knockout loss to a monstrous puncher in Matthysse. Bradley with his not so good power beat the guy who had a great showing against Khan (who's chin was not rocked in that fight).

    3. Bradley's performance against Marquez. Marquez was coming off the greatest win of his career and an ATG. Bradley won clearly although it was expectedly competitive.

    4. Bradley was very competitive against Pacquiao yesterday, with the vast majority of people saying 116-112 or 115-113.


    Is he P4P material? Of course...Mayweather, Ward, Rigo, Pacquiao, Wlad, Bradley.
     
  7. persianprince

    persianprince Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lamont Cheaderson? Khan won against him on roids, Matthyse slaughtered him.

    Devon should've lost to Matthyse aswell. And just for your information, Maidana-Mayweather is a joke fight, how can anyone make a case for it is beyond me? :patsch he lost to Khan and because he beat a hype job in Broner, he gets a shot at Mayweather. I mean even Canelo is more proved than Maidana

    I acknolewdge Ruslan, Marquez & Vasquez - But the rest of his resume is nothing special.
     
  8. ryan_c

    ryan_c Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yup.Bradley has a nice resume. He beat prime undefeated fighters in 3 straight fights peterson, abregu, alexander, and devon and lamont went on to win titles and some big fights, and abregu also has had a good run since bradley.Abregu's only loss is to Bradley, the guy just KO'd undefeated Prada last week. The guy was 30-0-1 and with that win, Abregu is now 36-1 (29 kos).He clearly beat JMM.
     
  9. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He deserved his high p4p ranking more than the GBP-influenced ranking of Saul Alvarez
     
  10. boxingbull

    boxingbull Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some people need to lay off fighters who takes losses especially ones that take losses to future ATG since when is losing to a ATG a crime to answer your question yes look at his resume aside from both Pacquiao fights and by the way all were world or former world champions:

    Marquez
    Provodnikov
    Alexander
    Peterson
    Casamayor
    Vazquez
    Witter
    Cherry
    Holt

    Even his win over Abregu he could soon become a world champ, so yes that sounds like a P4P guy to me that happened to lose to another P4P ATG
     
  11. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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  12. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tim is worthy now just like before of his p4p ranking. Just because he lost to Manny doesn't all the sudden discredit his status before suffering his 1st official professional loss. He will beat every other welterweight besides Pac or Floyd.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Fought well against Manny two times now. He came up short both times but he still managed to fight at a high level.
    Outboxed Marquez. Marquez was and is rather old but he still had plenty left in the tank.

    And then you have his run at 140. Alexander, Holt, Peterson, Witter and Vazquez.
    And at 147 he also has a dominant win over Abregu, who himself is a good fighter.