The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

TL DR 12-0 Floyd or a late round knockout.

 

floyd would not knock out pac. floyd would be defensive minded all night, frustrate the hell out of pac and land counters and pot shots at will. it will be a very frustrating fight to watch for pac fans, especially if pac doesen't bring the firepower and fights scared of getting knocked out.

on the other hand if pac brings the heat and shows a blatant disregard for floyds power things could get very interesting.

pac's chin is not glass, he got hit square in the face with the perfect punch coming in straight into marquez's steroid power.

 

Please tell Floyd this then, I'm sure he will fight PAC after this analysis

 

This was malignaggi's take on may-pac before. This is how I've always envisioned a pac-mayweather fight. Mayweather is a defense first fighter. Marquez will trade with you. When you throw combinations at Floyd sometimes he goes to a shell and does not fire back until he out of harms way. Marquez threw with pac and messed up pac's rhythm. Mayweather will have to be first against pac, he can't let pac tee off combinations on him because pac will be out of there before he can counter. Also against fast southpaws Floyd has to abandon the shoulder roll because it's not effective. I think it's a 50/50 fight.


“Ever since I watch Floyd Mayweather he gives you a defense where he locks up. And a lot of the time obviously it works for Floyd. Floyd is very hard to hit, regardless of the fact. But I always thought that somebody with fast hands – that throws punches in bunches and throws them in flurries – might not land on Floyd – because he locks up so well – he has the ability to leave Floyd there.”


“And what I mean by that is, move your hands, step out, you leave him there. Throw punches, step out. Before you know it, Floyd, if he’s giving you all this, he never gets the chance to get back off. Because you’re in and out. And that costs you rounds. Through the course of Mayweather’s career, he’s always been faster than most of his opponents. But the fast guys that he did fight did show glimpses of it. Oscar showed glimpses of that. Zab Judah showed glimpses of that – that you can do that to Floyd. The problem is you very rarely will hit him clean. So I think these guys get frustrated and get away from that. But in the meantime, what they don’t realize is that they’re probably winning rounds because Floyd is not getting off. Pacquiao doesn’t have to change anything about himself. He fights that way naturally.”

http://www.boxinginsider.com/columns/pacquiao-a-big-threat-to-floyd-says-ex-champ/

 

A known Floyd hater posting this. Big surprise.:roll:

If anything that fight would encourage Floyd to fight him. He is still fast... but it is clear he is fading.

 

Glass chin? Wtf? He got caught with a great counter while stepping on the guys foot.

 

Sort of the same with Khan, style wise if Khan fights smart (I know that's a big IF) and still has his speed, he might trouble Floyd, long time since Floyd faced a guy who is faster than him.

 

This 'quick volume of punches' argument is nonsense. Doesn't matter how many punches you throw or how quick you throw them if you are out of range and out of position. Floyd is in another league in ring generalship and would have manny punching air all night. I'd rather see floyd fight khan

 

Immediate indication that they have never boxed and don't know **** about boxing when the say Manny Pacquiao has "awesome footwork." Manny actually gets away with mistakes because of his physical abilities/attributes.

 

Similar idea and an easy fight to pick, but there's so much Mayweather bias through selective competition that people who lack real boxing insight think he'd shut Pac out when he's never shut out an elite fighter.

JMM and Floyd are so opposite in style and it is not worth comparing. Counter puncher doesn't = trouble Pac, JMM himself has these little details to his style that the average fool fan doesn't see like taking little steps backwards to lure Pac in and throwing that absurdly well timed right hand AND of course the willingness to eat shots to land them back.

Which your point about that is on point entirely.

Pac giving JMM an onslaught = both of them eating the shots. It's just one of those great stylistic clashes and certain people also act like JMM schooled him or something...

Those were always even fights and tough wars. JMM struggles with Pac as much as Pac struggles with JMM.

Mayweather also has historically had trouble with the left straight of a southpaw and an elite fighter with that punch could do some work on him, he never faced an elite southpaw so we don't exactly know.

I just think it's idiotic that Pac is written off as inferior to Floyd in this "fantasy match up" where both guys were in their prime in the same era!atsch

 

so was pac

 

It's hard to realize how stupid people are until you go to a boxing forum regularly.

 

Bradley exchanges punches and Floyd pot shots.

Bradley takes risks and Floyd will not.

Bradley has a lot more head movement than Floyd.

Bradley is bubbling with confidence going into the ring. Floyd will pee in his pants as soon as he sees Pac with him in the ring.

Floyd will look like when Bradley is on the ropes when Pac hits him. Oh, Floyd likes to be on the ropes. He can't use this shoulder roll on Pac that is designed for orthodox fighters.

Pac takes this.

 

Most boxers who have leverage power, especially based on height on thin rangy men who send a cross missile after a jab...keep the power as long as they can set up that punch

Pacman dynamic power punching depended on elite conditioning that allowed him to deliver overwhelming punishment... to an opponent who never saw anything like Pacman...so he was vulnerable to the punches more...Pacman power definitely didn't depend on height based leverage....he always to shorten the range by darting in under his own firepower and deliver fast bombs between his combinations...he can't do it like he used to :conf

 

And this is Pacquaio now. 2009-2010 when Pac was peaked out, Floyd didn't stand a chance. Now it's a nice competitive fight where Pac is much more beatable and you still won't see this bout happen because a certain guy is quite perceptive to the fact that this particular opponent is very difficult for him.

That's despite his fans that don't understand the sport at all.