The Best Fighter With The Worst Record

Jimmy Young?

 

I thought of Holyfield straight away, with his like 10+ losses

 

119 Fights.
93 wins,25 losses. 1 draw.
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Ezzard Charles.

 

Those records tell me that those guys were fighting real competition..not hand picked. If they were able to hand pick like today's great fighters, they would all be undefeated. A lot of them also fought the next crop of great/good fighters way after thier own primes which tells me they had tons of heart.

 

Marion Wilson 12-41-4, fougt 30 or more HW contenders, was never stopped. Fought till he turned 50.

Ibeabuchi, Golota (X2), McCall (X2), Rahman, Briggs, Maskaev, Kirk Johnson, Samuel Peter, Ray Mercer, David Izon (X2) to name a few heavy hitters, all failed to stop Wilson.

He has had some notable wins over undefeated fighters and fringe contenders. Also drew with Mercer in a fight many people tought he should've won.

 

Thanks for that, never knew that :good

 

As someone mentioned earlier in this thread these guys were not protected they weren't carefully matched like those with the better records. The major difference between Jack Dempsey and guys like Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano Mike Tyson is he wasn't a product coming up he fought all comers until he was champ. A good friend of mine was Carl Crowley from Iowa he fought a virtual who's who from Lt Welterweight to Middleweight. From Johnny Lira, Aaron Pryor to Caveman Lee, he fought anyone at anytime. Naturally he should have been a Welterweight He fought anyone and he retired at 24 y.o. He had world class talent, power and toughness he was constantly overmatched and without the protection of a savvy promoter he was a dangerous journeyman who knew how to play the game.

He told me e was offered a contract to find under King promotions and his father told Don King he didn't need him. Carl would get random fight offers to fight at last minute like the case with Pryor. Even when in shape to fight he couldn't beat the system. He got the call a few days before and was offered Pryor he was told 150 lbs for the fight. Carl showed up at the airport at 155 knowing he would urinate and sweat out the last 5 overnight. Don King picked him up in his LImo got out laughing and then asked Carl what he weighed Carl told him. KIng said 155? your fight is at 140!(not 150). Carl spent the night running and sweating and not drinking fluid and made the weight. He told me his brother had to hold the ropes open because he was so wiped out he felt drunk and weak and that Pryor was lucky to 2 rounds of work out of him. final record 24-19 (15Kos)

The point of that story is it is a typical story for a fighter not protected by a promoter and savvy manager will not have an easy road to a title he will travel to the school of hard knocks and tough fights against legit competition like themselves. No protection no anything he will fight anyone, there is no tougher fighter. If he isn't too damaged he will be a well schooled fight tested against real competition. Fighters like the above were forged into greatness through adversity and this should tell you just just how great Robinson, Armstrong and the like truly were.

 

Sanderline Williams, Robbie Sims and Lenzie Morgan. Billed as gatekeepers/journeymen when in reality they were taken advantage of by promoters wanting to test a seemingly world-class prospect who was already deep in camp for a fight date by bringing in these talented boxers without perfect records on a couple of weeks notice or less, to make sure they were never quite sharp enough to edge the win, OR (and more often than not) were simply shafted on the cards due to not being as marketable as a fighter (usually future world champion) with less losses.

 

I think we can come up with any number of people.

 

I think if someone with extremely padded record like Denis Boytsov faced Marion Wilson's competition, he colud've had similar record including more than 10 KO losses:yep

 

Art"the Dart"Kettles, Freddie Pembleton, Saol Mamby, Angel Rodriguez to name a few

 

The marion wilson one is a great call..Tyrell Biggs beat him but said he was a very good fighter..seemed he fought almost everyone..

 

47-26-5 Freddie Pendleton

 

Jesse Burnett.