Bernard Humphrey Hopkins Jr did well to avoid being ruined by Joe Calzaghe

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  1. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did he QUIT and CRY like a school girl in those too.:hi:
     
  2. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    46-0 DEAL WITH IT!!:deal
     
  3. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well go get some fat fu$k.
     
  4. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol Mad huh? LOL:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:nut
     
  5. Super Hans

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    Wrong.

    Super Joe followed his victory over Hopkins by ruining 1st ballot Hall of Famer Roy Jones Jr who has not won a significant fight since. :deal
     
  6. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Deal with what?

    The only deal Calzaghe doing these days is on the receiving end of a cocaine deal going straight up his nose.
     
  7. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What you said is wrong, what I said was the truth.

    I said before Hopkins ruined Calzaghe

    1. Calzaghe was coming off his greatest win
    2. Calzaghe finally made it to P4P top5
    3. Calzaghe just finished off his legendary SMW run

    All those points above is the truth.

    Then once Calzaghe stepped into the ring with Bernard Hopkins.

    1. Calzaghe never went another fight with out being knocked down.
    2. Calzaghe started cocaine
    3. Calzaghe started dancing on BBC television.

    All that above is the TROOF

    So how you going to degrade your reputation by calling what I said as being 'Wrong', when it is proven facts recorded in history.

    Roy Jones Jr didn't win a significant fight before Calzaghe and after the Controversial Majority Decision over Antonio Tarver back in 2003. So that shows that Roy Jones decline began in 2004 after Tarver knocked him out, not after 2008 when Calzaghe beat him.
     
  8. Super Hans

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    Nonsense, between the Tarver win and the the Joe loss Roy defeated recent Hall of Fame inductee Felix Trinidad. :deal

    Roy Jones had never been completely schooled like he was by Joe ever before, even when he himself stepped in the ring with 'The Executioner' it was Jones who dished out the schooling.

    Roy had lost before due to his glass jaw but was never schooled- even to this day- like he was by the man, the myth, the legend, Joe Calzaghe.

    Perhaps all fighters should've pulled a crybaby face :crybaby and try and quit constantly like Hopkins did to have a flourishing carrer post a Calzaghe spanking. :deal
     
  9. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Except the part where Bernard clearly won the fight only to be robbed by Calzaghe.
    This fight was reminiscent of Oscar vs Pernell/Floyd in which Oscar and Joe were ineffective aggressors throwing volume punches while the counterpunchers were vastly superior

    for those complaining about Hopkins stalling do not forget Calzaghes rabbit punches. and don't forget - Calzaghes dad before rd 12 "Joe you HAVE to knock him out." They knew the farce of a boxer Calzaghe lost. Joe's face prior to the decision said it all

    Joe Calzaghe is overrated and has a padded record. All boxing fans with an ounce of knowledge know that Calzaghe is a mediocre fighter with a padded record. Being undefeated is not impressive when you fight in your backyard vs bums for 95% of your career. He wasn't trash, but he wasn't exactly good either. Let's look at his "noteworthy" career.

    1) Chris Eubank - this is not a notable win. Eubank was in the end of his career and a shell of his former self. And on top of that, a prime Eubank didn't beat anyone other than Benn - a decent but not great boxer. And he ducked James Toney cuz he knew Toney would crush him.

    2) Jeff Lacy - A washed up version of Roy Jones finished this guy. That shows how unimpressive this win is.

    3) Sakio Bika - a belt holder with no notable wins.

    4) Manfredo Jr - another easy win. Not impressive

    5) Kessler - he beat Froch. Whoop de doo who has Froch beaten outside of a washed up Glen Johnson, and padded record Abraham and Bute? (who have never beaten anyone notable) Froch also got a gift from the ref vs Groves and the judges vs Dirrell. Froch's win over Pascal is not impressive because Pascal was green and is nowhere near the same fighter anymore. And Jermain Taylor was a blind squirrel who stumbled across an acorn vs Bernard Hopkins, and did nothing since then. After his 15 minutes of fame Taylor disappeared quickly. So now that we established that Froch is overrated like his countryman Calzaghe, there are no notable wins on Kessler's resume either.

    6) Roy Jones - of course when Calzaghe fights Roy Jones, Jones is a shell of his former self. Roy already got viciously KOd twice before this, and he was not anything close to resembling a world class fighter. And he still knocked down the overrated pillow-punching/slapping bum Calzaghe.

    7) Bernard Hopkins - Calzaghe did not win that fight. He got gifted a decision. His father was screaming at him in the corner before the last round - telling him he needed a knockout. From the look on Calzaghe's face before the judges' announcement he knew he didn't deserve to win the fight. Then Calzaghe was extremely surprised and excited when he found out he got gifted the win he didn't earn. Calzaghe got whipped and knocked down by a 43 year old man. So much for Calzaghe being an all time great fighter. Is it coincidence that when a man with a padded record finally faced real competition that he had such a difficult time? No. It proves Calzaghe's incompetence as a wannabe top-level boxer.

    I know certain sheep that are following the herd have prepared pitiful arguments to defend the mediocrity that is Calzaghe's career, and I will dismantle them here.

    1) Calzaghe beat Hopkins legitimately - NO he didn't. Just like Oscar DLH in his fights vs Pernell and Floyd (in which Oscar clearly lost both times despite what the judges said), Calzaghe was the ineffective aggressor while his opponent was the more effective counterpuncher. Calzaghe threw pitter-patter slaps on Bernard's arms and shoulders, and complained about Hopkins faking a low blow (which he probably did) - while forgetting all the times he hit Bernard in the back of the head without being penalized. On no planet did Calzaghe win more than 6 rounds, and because of the knockdown from Bernard there is no way he legitimately won the fight.

    2) Well on compubox Calzaghe outstruck Bernard - Compubox stats almost always are innacurate - even glancing blows or blows that completely miss can be counted on the punch stats as an effective shot, so if the compubox stats are your reasoning for Calzaghe's legitimacy then you are a fool. On top of that, matches are scored round by round - not based on who landed more overall shots. If fighter a breathes on fighter b that counts as 10 landed shots.

    3) Calzaghe is undefeated - Calzaghe fought 44 nobodies (including Eubank). The other 2 were a washed up past-prime RJJ and a 43 year old man that he lost to, but received a gift. It's not about the number of fights you win. It's about who you win against and how you win. Brian Nielsen was 49-0 at one point. Would you take Brian Nielsen over Muhammad Ali (56-5), Evander (44-10-2), etc? I would hope not. Undefeated doesn't necessarily mean good.

    What has been written is IRREFUTABLE, UNDENIABLE, UNCONTESTABLE, INDISPUTABLE, UNQUESTIONABLE, flawless FACT. Not opinion or conjecture. Not even the fact that Bernard Hopkins legitimately won (but got robbed by the judges) is an opinion. Nor is it an opinion that Calzaghe is nothing close to an all time great fighter by any stretch of the imagination. I challenge any human being to try and disprove the mastery of wisdom that has been displayed. If someone can do so, I will respond to acknowledge their superior knowledge. Unfortunately for delusional Calzaghe fans, no one can refute the irrefutable.
     
  10. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Brian Nielsen was 49-0 at one stage. What's your point?
     
  11. Super Hans

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    I guarantee you 99.9% of this forum stopped reading at this absolutely ridiculous troll statement. :lol::lol:

    Including me so I hope you enjoyed wasting your time.
     
  12. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    copy paste takes 5 seconds

    and you will always remain one of the
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  13. Super Hans

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    Well I doubt anybody has ever read it. :lol::lol:
     
  14. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Felix Trinidad was shot bloated and just there for a payday, that is not a significant win.


    Glen Johnson knockout off Jones Jr was a bigger schooling that Joe Calzaghe, and Glencoffe beat a better version. Hopkins schooled RJJ on dirty fighting, you didn't watch that fight properly.

    Glen Johnson.

    Hopkins crybaby face has schooled many fighters in the past, it is one of his most underrated weapons in the ring.

    Again time to reiterate the TROOF:-

    Calzaghe was in fact ruined by 'The Executioner'.

    Before the Hopkins fight Calzaghe was just coming off his greatest win over Kessler, finally rated in the P4P top 5 and was established as the greatest SMW legend of all times.

    After the Hopkins fight, got knocked down in every fight from then on out, addicted to cocaine to numb the mental torture Hopkins inflicted on him and became a background dancer on a BBC television show to raise up some quick cash to pay off cocaine dealers.
     
  15. assasin

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    what, he gassed out, looked for some help, then got bent over and proper ****ed like a prison *****?

    even worse than what Joe did to him????

    Bernard must have went home and cried about having a sore bottom. :lol:

    i hope it wasn't done by a White Boy.