What One Klitscho fight = Bowe-Holyfield I ???

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  1. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Is that Holyfield?
    I haven't heard of him being caught using, but of those on the list, he was the smallest having moved up.
    Still, I think Holyfield was just one of those strong;y built Georgia guys who was uniquely able to make the transition to HW.
     
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    He was a user, and I am sure still is. Look, everyone in boxing at a certain level starts using hgh, testosterone, etc. Its undetectable and the fighters will never confess. One just has to be in the sport yourself to know it, casuals like you would think Holyfield is all natural.
     
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    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a pretty strong accusation.

    Personally, I disagree. There are some, like Mayweather, Hopkins, Bowe, Foreman and Holmes who don't/didn't need them.
    I think those who lack natural gifts and abilities are more apt to take them and then assume or announce that everyone else does it too. :yep
     
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    You don't know that they haven't used it, because you don't even know the signs of use.

    Let me give you a hint.

    NONE.

    Mayweather is rich enough to be on the kind of drugs other fighters simply CAN'T AFFORD. Lance Armstrong managed to dupe a much more diligent agency for over a decade.
     
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    :lol::lol:Usain St. Leo Bolt, the Jamaican sprinter has won

    6 Olympic Gold medals
    8 Gold medals in World Championships
    2 Silver

    Those who can't compete wih his natural ability accuse him of using steroids, although none have ever been detected in Olympic testing.

    To his distractors Bolt replied.
    "Yes, I consume performace enhancing drugs all the time. I can tell you which ones; Jamaican Yams, Calalow with salt Cod, and fried chicken".
    Sometimes, it's simply good DNA and good steady diet. Natural is always better than synthetic. :lol::rofl
     
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    :rofl

    Yeah it's that prison food.
     
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    What Mayweather fight came close to matching Hearns/Hagler?

    End of the day you will always get fighters who are exciting and some who are efficient

    Whose to say that Wladimir couldnt do what Lewis did to Holyfield? both were huge guys with shaky chins and fought at range (even the same trainer!) Now im not going to go on about how Ali would lose to K2 like my friend in MMA and i believe once Holyfield lands solidly on Wlad then its onto ***** street / Clinching for Wlad

    All im saying is who is out there who can give Klitschko the kind of fight that Bowe and Holy gave eachother? David Haye is the best HW outside the Klitschkos and lost to Wladimir in a BOXING match not a ballroom brawl.

    Ali had Frazier, Bowe had Holyfield, Wladimir had Haye . . . . . . **** happens
     
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    They were all bigtime users. Some of the other more noteable users from the era were Tyson, Ibeabuchi, Briggs, Golota and Morrison.

    Everyone uses to this day. Except in that era they used a whole lot more because of the far less stringent testing protocols.

    You have not done much athletics or physical training in your have you? I am not trying to belittle you but most people who have such a disconnected view of PED usage are not real physically oriented people.
     
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    The Jamaican anti-doping commission does not even test their athletes year round.
     
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    Lennox set personal lifting and running records during that training camp. The extra weight was certainly muscle not fat.

    Nice to see someone else actually has a clue.
     
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    Naw fool, Hopkins is a Muslim, so he doesn't eat foul things like you so-called "Christian" whites and Negroes.

    Also, due to the training of the late great Bouie Fisher.
     
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    Maybe in your next life you can be born right.
    Then you won't have to be envious and jealous.
    Then you too can be synthetic free. :good
     
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    I am of the strong opinion that the Nevada commission does not even test Floyd anymore. They got tired of covering up his positive tests so they just go through the motions to keep up appearances like he is subject to the same scrutiny and rules as everyone else but he is not.
     
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    Post confirming link, or STFU! :good
     
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    I could send you a cell phone shot of Floyd with a syringe of TEST in one cheek and one of Masteron in the other and you would shove your head deeper in the sand. dirt, leaf litter or toilet whatever is most accessible.
     
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