the jones jr debate.

Plenty of people picked John Ruiz to beat Roy because of the size difference.. After Roy made it look easy, then it was a cherry pick, people just can't stand the fact that Roy Jones won a major belt at HW.:|

 

Really, Roy fighting a half-decent HW would come down to the fact that the HW can take Roy's best shots, but Roy probably can't take his.

Apparently, Roy mentioned fighting Holyfield after the Griffin rematch. I think that version of Holyfield would knock him out. Remember, that happened in 1997, one year after Holyfield beat Tyson.

Ruiz was a slow, feather-fisted, relatively small HW.

 

And helped Hopkins to move to LHW

 

The difference there is that Spinks beat THE champ at HW, Larry Holmes. Roy only beat a trinket belt holder.

 

Wasn't roy and tyson suppose to fight?

 

That isn't what happened. Holyfield didn't 'decline' as you put it. He was going to unify with Lennox Lewis in one of the biggest fights of the past 3 decades at Heavyweight. He was guaranteed 20 mil. Holyfield was doing what Jones refused to do in his career and that is fight the best available fighters and take risks. :rofl

 

I have been telling them this for years now and they just ignore it. Jones handpicked Ruiz who is one of the worst Heavyweight beltholders because that is all he was a beltholder NOT a champion that was Lennox Lewis

 

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/boxing/2003-03-18-jones_x.htm

Here is Holyfield's decline genius ! As always you don't know what your talking about !

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl

completely different time frame.

 

and here in your link is Jones pricing himself out of a fight with a shot to **** washed up Mike Tyson :rofl

That is embarrassing.

 

I know that's why you sound ******ed Holy wasn't even a belt holder when they had those discussions yet you talk about him unifying the belts atsch

Yeah way to,stick your foot in your mouth!

 

Ummmmm, they had those discussions when Holyfield was WBA/IBF champion and about to fight Lennox

Like I said wrong time frame. You don't even know what you are posting about. Glass Jaw Roy had been pretending and 'talking' like he was going up to Heavyweight as early as 1997 and didn't do it until he could cherrypick Ruiz.

You don't have a clue what you are talking about. Jones wouldn't even fight a guy that had been in a Diabetic Coma because his daddy knew that Glass Jaw was getting Shattered.

 

That's funny I thought they war around the same time Ruiz was WBA champ :think

And it's funny you said its embarrassing of him to ask for 100 mil for Tyson but didn't LL just do that with Vitali for a come back ? I see how you roll .

And your faulting at best a small lt HW for not fighting a guy who was 6'3 246 ..

Yeah OK Roy should take all the blame for that .

 

Lennox while I do believe he should have given Vitali a rematch was/is retired at the time of the 100 mil statement. Tyson wasn't. But he was so far gone and washed up that is an embarrassing quote from Roy. That was his M.O though 'act' like you want to fight someone then make absurd and comical demands knowing damn well the fight can't b e made on those terms. He did it for basically his whole career. Never has a fighter 'talked' with so many different fighters, promoters, and managers and not been able to make the fights but the Jones nuthuggers on here tell us it was always the other participants fault. :roflatsch

Jones was a Glass Jawed Prima donna that wasn't going to take any risks for fear of getting knocked out cold and it ended up happening anyway. Several times. atsch

 

Spinks beat a past it Larry Holmes in a weak era... Jones was in an era with prime massive Super HW's like Lennox Lewis and the Klit brothers... Spinks would have just been a trinket holder as well in Lennox's era.. Not to mention, Spinks was a big LHW that moved up, Roy started at 154...