Reminder: Wlad has LESS of a height/weight advantage than MUHAMMAD ALI did

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  1. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look up the statistics.

    People constantly say "Wlad is just big"

    Guess what? Ali, on average, enjoyed a GREATER weight/height advantage than Wlad has over his opponents.

    Most of the guys Ali fought would today fight at 175 or cruiserweight. Think about it.

    Was Ali "just big"?

    Will people finally admit that the olympic gold winning HW champ who hasn't been touched in a DECADE might have some skills and isn't "just big"?
     
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  2. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ali fought in the best heavyweight era, ever.
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best publicized and most fondly remembered, yes.
     
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  4. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, Oleg Maskaev and Samuel Peter sure would've earned a championship in their (Ali's) era. :lol:
     
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  5. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Skills + size = almost impossible to overcome. Size helps Wlad IMMENSELY.
     
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  6. Nanaki

    Nanaki Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson, Holyfield, and Lewis would've.
     
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  7. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    :patsch

    How is that relevant to the debate?
    Tyson,Holyfield and Lewis were all in the era prior to Wladimirs, you tool.
     
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  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Size helped Ali IMMENSELY.

    Can you imagine how badly Ali would've been in trouble when 186 lb. Henry Cooper knocked him down hard if he wasn't MUCH BIGGER?

    Think about it.
     
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  9. Nanaki

    Nanaki Active Member Full Member

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    Read what you're talking about here....
     
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  10. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    Words can't begin to describe... nvm, OBTUSE.
     
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  11. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    I think Wlad utilizes that size advantage better than Ali did though, Wlad is more dependent upon it I feel.
     
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  12. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vlad's level of skill is 20 floors below Ali.

    Size and a long jab are Vlad's major tools, and in that order.

    In Ali's ear neither Klit would have possessed the skills to even have become contenders.
     
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  13. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Complete bull**** and you know it. Ali went life and death with bums galore, stop talking ****.
     
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  14. VBOX

    VBOX JOURNEYMAN Full Member

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    That guy has no interest in actually breaking things down and having a debate. It's all bums and stiffs to him even after presenting him with decent arguments. He has an extreme hate going on for HW boxing and Europeans in particular.
     
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  15. I Know Everythi

    I Know Everythi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ali beat Norton, Frazier, Liston, Foster, Lyle, Shavers, Foster, and even in his terrible condition beat Leon Spinks - all of which are better than Wlad's best win over Sam Peter.

    Faster, jab at least as good, much better chin, much more mobile, much harder to hit before his suspension, and never even reached his prime. And Ali was never demolished by three C level bums like Klitschko

    Ali is much better than this bum's brother as well
     
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