the jones jr debate.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by anton, Apr 11, 2014.


  1. Madmanc

    Madmanc Guest

    nigel ben was more exciting and he stayed clean aswell,also roy wanted no part of him,with good reason
     
  2. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    No, your reading comprehension is not a strong point..

    What I said was Roy beating Lennox would have been on a different planet than Spinks beating Holmes. Yes Spinks beat THE Hw champ, Roy beat a belt holder... THE HW Champ was no Lennox Lewis when Spinks won the title.. Hell, we saw what happened to Spinks when he fought someone on Lewis' level at HW. He never got in the ring again, maybe that is why Roy wanted ridiculous money to get in the ring with Lennox.
     
  3. Imperial1

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    To fault Roy for wanting 100 mil to face a monster like Tyson who blew out Spinks in 42 seconds isn't that unreasonable ..But to his critics it's embarrassing yet when LL requested the same thing to fight a guy almost his size he gets a pass for it .

    People can call Ruiz a scrub all they want but if anyone can name another fighter who's fought from jr middle all the way to heavy while beating first ballot hall of famers in Toney and Hopkins I'm all ears !
     
  4. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins, McCallum, Hill and Reggie were all eight years away from their best.

    Props for taking on (a hideously weight-drained but no fault of Roy's) Toney, but disgraceful that he never rematched him. Disgraceful that he stayed away from tall southpaws like Liles, Nunn and Rocchigiani, until Tarver...
     
  5. Bulldog24

    Bulldog24 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Also disgraceful that he abused steroids.

    He wanted no part of Lamar Parks at 160, either. Or Julian Jackson.
     
  6. Madmanc

    Madmanc Guest

    the best thing to do when looking at his resume is to look at who he did fight and at what stage of their careers he fought them,then look at the names he avoided/didnt fight in and around his weight division.
    benn eubank watson and collins all would have been big money fights and he never batted an eye lid at any of them
     
  7. Imperial1

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    This is hilarious ,so Jones moves up to challenge Toney for his belt ,because he always had issues with weight it's Roy's fault :lol:

    And do your homework Liles was offered big money to fight Roy who then turned it down ..A d Rochi well go do some more homework the guy went to fight the WBC as opposed to fighting Roy but I know that's also Roy's fault :?

    And Hopkins didn't lose another fight for another 10 yrs after Roy but he was far from his best :patsch

    And I don't even have to,discuss Hill McCallum and Johnson ,they were all established before Jones fought them.
     
  8. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    2003 Tyson wasn't a monster. He was shot to **** and couldn't even beat Danny Williams or Kevin McBride and Glass Jaw Roy was wanting 100 mil :rofl:patsch
     
  9. Imperial1

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    Compared to Jones he was or do just think Roy would have avoided Tyosn's power? Again your talking about a small LHW ..Your faulting the much smaller guy but that's much to difficult for you to understand !
     
  10. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    #1. Klitschko has never failed a test as a pro and the one he did fail wasn't even an anabolic steroid :rofl

    #2. When you are fighting at Heavyweight there are going to be people bigger than you unless your name is Nico Valuev. That is just life. So don't move up and fight Johnny Ruiz then make absurd demands because there is nobody left that you can handpick that has no skill, is flat footed, and has no speed or power to shatter your Glass Jaw. Roy agreed to the same exact purse structure to fight Sanders as he got for Ruiz. Even the same arena. Sanders signed then Roy chickened out as usual.
     
  11. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    2003 Tyson was an absolute corpse and a 2 round fighter. Stevie Wonder and Ray Charles knew that. Asking for 100 mil is delusional and immediately pricing yourself out of the fight. Case closed. There isn't really anything else to say about it.
     
  12. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yes Hopkins did avenge his loss. It is a fact. It happened. And it was a boring **** fest just like the first fight was.
     
  13. Imperial1

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    Funny this article says that Klitchko admitted to taking a steroid


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...04/Boxing-Klitschko-admits-steroid-abuse.html

    But if that's. James Toney or RJJ they are disgraceful PED cheats and who the hell cheats as an ametuer :lol:
     
  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    hmm. I can think of quite few guys that would at least push RJJ to his limit at 154.
     
  15. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Yes he asked for 100 mil to fight both Tyson and Lennox. It is documented in the link. Maybe you should read it.