Who do you think has the better LHW resume out of Jones and Hopkins?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who do you think has the better LHW resume out of Jones and Hopkins?

    Just LHW resume only. Obviously Jones was a LHW for a while, but who has the better resume at the weight.
    Hopkins did beat the man, but Jones has a long list of opponents.

    Jones -
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    M Griffin
    L Del Valle
    R Johnson
    J Gonzalez
    C Woods
    A Tarver
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    V Hill
    M McCallum
    E Harding


    Hopkins -
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    A Tarver
    J Pascal
    T Cloud
    B Shumenov (If he wins)
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    R Wright
    K Pavlik
    K Murat
    R Jones



    Please note where some of these fighters were in their careers at the time of the victories and what form they were on.


    Now who do you think has the better LHW resume? Please explain why and which victories you feel give the edge
     
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  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Jones by miles two of the guys listed Wright and Pavlik never fought at light heavy..He also,already held a win over Tarver before Hopkins got to him .
     
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  3. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Is your opinion mainly based on the Tarver win alone?
     
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  4. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Meh, never really a fan of just judging guys simply by one of the many divisions the fought in.
     
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  5. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    No not at all .Read what I just wrote what the hell :lol:
     
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  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Maybe you should be. Some fighters cant seem to compete in certain weight divisions
     
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  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I did and I noted that you rightly pointed to two fighters with no pedigree at the weight, but you only noted the Tarver win for Jones and I wondered how else you drew the opinion, because as I noted, please note where the opponents were in their career
     
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  8. STB

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    Some guys fight at certain weights in their prime, some guys dont carry weight well, some guys dont cut well.
    Some guys fight better comp at certain weights, etcd etc etc

    Thats why I judge a guy on his prime regardless of where he fights.

    Jones was a fantastic MW, SMW and LHW, would have made a fantastic Cruiser if he had went there while still young and stayed there.

    He even managed to be a world class HW, fighting under 200lbs
     
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  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Which one of those divisions did Jones beat the man in?
     
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  10. Imperial1

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    Hill,McCallum Gonzalez and Johnson are all better than

    Cloud
    Pascal
    And Shuminov
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hill and McCallum had just had recent losses although I do think Hill was a top LHW, but he and McCallum both seemed at the end of their LHW careers, but agree that I think they were better
     
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  12. STB

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    Depends of your definition of "The man".

    Toney was considered the man at SMW, thats one undeniable one.

    You'll bring up Dariusz at LHW even though everyone will consider Jones to have been NO.1 the entire time he was at 175, up until he went to HW.

    Hopkins was undefeated for 5 years before fighting Jones and was undefeated for 12 years after he fought Jones at MW.
     
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  13. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Agreed
     
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  14. Dorfmeister

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    Roy has by common sense the best LHW resume. He was dominating at that time and the fact that he lost to Tarver and Tarver to Hopkins doesn't say anything, not even the rematch between Jones and Hopkins.
     
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  15. Thread Stealer

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    Jones
     
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