Will Wladmir Klitschko Ever Have a Win over a Hall of Famer or ATG?

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  1. -GhettoWizard-

    -GhettoWizard- Well-Known Member Full Member

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    his best win is Chris Byrd who won't make it.....Haye hasn't done a thing besides crap it up against Valuev
     
  2. Rampage88

    Rampage88 Active Member Full Member

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    While he's dominated the division with his brother there's been no room for any other HW to make a name for themselves to get into the Hall of Fame or be considered as an ATG. Maybe once he retires some other boxers who he's already beat can go on to do well and then be considered an all time great but other than that very unlikely possibility there's no chance. It's not really his fault though and it shouldn't be held against him, it's just because of the dominance he's had it makes an average HW division looks like a poor HW division.
     
  3. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Byrd and Haye may both make it. The standard is pretty low these days. He could beat an up and comer who becomes a solid fighter but none of the guys he is fighting these days will be lucky to be remembered outside of their family
     
  4. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Povetkin and Chagaev are pretty good fighters.
     
  5. jas

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    no because era is weak
     
  6. Stallion

    Stallion Son of Rome Full Member

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    I don't know which criteria do you use to rate his "best win", but his biggest victories were Povetkin and David Haye. Byrd is maybe third together with Chagaev in my opinion.

    "Hall Of Fame", being an American thing, doesn't have too much focus out of the United States, therefore I'm not sure how credible it would be if we talked about it as some measure of quality. Also, when there is a champion who is dominant for a very long time, it is highly unlikely that the other boxers will be inducted into "HOF", because they have no space to shine, no matter how good they are. Like someone has already mentioned, the only way would be if some boxer who is already defeated by Wladimir, goes and dominates the division after Wladimir retires.

    As for "ATG", it's a relative term which is subjective and pretty much has a different meaning to each individual, so it's up to you who you consider an "all time great" or if you even have that concept of rating boxers.
     
  7. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    No. That really isn't his fault
     
  8. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    The only one I can think of is Wimpy Halstead. They called him Wimpy but he was anything but.
     
  9. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    He beat french Mike Tyson.
     
  10. Str8ryte

    Str8ryte Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nope because there isnt one. while you cant blame him for the landscape, you cant reward him for it either.
     
  11. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad will just keep winning his mandatories and keep cleaning out the heavyweight division.............

    Klitschko haters claim that Vlad is the worst heavyweight living today, but how do they explain Vlad winning the gold medal, super heavyweight division, and beating all the other champions, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO, etc., he will fight for the WBC as well..................
     
  12. OldSchool Rules

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    Leapai is a first ballot shoe-in.
     
  13. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Leapai won the right to fight for the title by beating Boytsov. Wilder got ranked #3 WBC by doing nothing................
     
  14. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Lewis beat Vitali, how many thought Lewis beat a legit future champion, Ring #1 HW and future HOF? We won't know until many years after Wlad retires what his opposition was really worth.
     
  15. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let's not forget Sweet Paea Wolfgramm, who was on his way to ATG status until Wlad derailed him.