Who ranks higher in the All-Time Great List - Roy Jones Jr. or Bernard Hopkins?

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  1. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    None of them beat a prime Jones.
     
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  2. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Not including Hopkins here are the hall of famers he beat

    Toney
    Hill
    R.Johnson
    Tarver


    None of those guys were smaller men like Tito and Oscar

    Jones resume easily trumps Hopkins
     
    Imperial1, Apr 19, 2014
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  3. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    hopkins had 20 consecutive title defences and then moved up and dominated the man who knocked out jones
     
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  4. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    prime for prime jones beats hopkins but hopkins has the better resume and that means he is higher on atg list
     
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  5. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Tarver's only claim to fame is a shot jones, johnson even though i love the guy is iffy, tito was overrated and **** at MW, Oscar see tito, Winky was inactive and was a nobody above 154, I think he beat joe but so what:D

    Bhop's claim to fame is his longevity.
     
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  6. JASPER

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    I rank RJJ higher because of his move up to heavyweight and wins over bhop and toney. However, if you take those achievements away he resume looks like calslappy's.
     
    JASPER, Apr 19, 2014
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  7. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look at the guys he fought at the time -->garbage. His middleweight reign is overrated.
     
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  8. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    nobody else has had 20 consecutive title defences

    jones' feat is remarkable but didnt sam langford draw for welter belt and get ducked at heavy even though he was blind in one eye??

    jones failed to do what bob fitzsimmons did by going to heavy then back down to lhw to recapture the title.

    hopkins did not duck anybody in his reign. he even called out the best jmw's such as winky and vargas because mw was weak.

    jones beat ruiz not lewis
     
    jas, Apr 19, 2014
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  9. Imperial1

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    Jones did recapture the LHW title what are you talking about :huh


    And Hopkins beat Pascal lets not forget how he didn't Dawson!
     
    Imperial1, Apr 19, 2014
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  10. VG_Addict

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    Do you think Hopkins could have won a title at SMW?
     
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  11. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    meant to say the move ruined jones, he did recapture my bad


    how did you score the fight v tarver
     
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  12. jas

    jas ★ Legends: B-HOP ; PAC ★ Full Member

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    yes . against who?
     
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  13. STB

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    Depends on how you score it, bhop may have a slight edge on resume.

    But for actual in ring ability? Its hard to think anyone in history to match a prime Jones
     
    STB, Apr 19, 2014
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  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    The 1st for Jones close fight but Jones pulled it out on pts ..
     
    Imperial1, Apr 19, 2014
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  15. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Let's be honest once Jones' legs were gone he was done as the freak ..It was too late for him to go back to being a conventional fighter ..So the guys that did beat him caught the guy who couldn't get out the way of the punches.
     
    Imperial1, Apr 19, 2014
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