The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    so you agree pedjr is tailor made for pac. good.:good
     
  2. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    They can SAY, he can make 140 all they want. Until he actually does it, its irrelevant.

    Ive seen sparring partners of Floyd say he could fight at 135, does it mean anything? Of course not.

    Do we have any proof he even tried to make 144?. He weighed 146...he ALWAYS weighs 146 at WW.

    Like I said, hes weighing 149, a whole MONTH before the Maidana fight.

    No big fights at 140?

    Are you telling me that fighting Danny Garcia isnt a big Fight? Or Provo? Or Vargas? Or Matthyse? Or Khan?

    Are you saying fighting Clottey or old beat up Mosely are bigger fights than that?

    Now who is the ******?
     
  3. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    Who says he tried?
     
  4. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquaio and Paul Williams are the two worst KO's I've seen of recent times.
     
  5. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top 10 probably top 3.
     
  6. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The biggest difference is the reach, Mayweather would have something like 7 inches of reach advantage, wich is insane at those low weight classes.

    Plus he'd have a couple inches of height advantage.

    And not to mention the weight. *****s always try to minimize Floyd's weight, but the truth is, Mayweather has weighted more than 154 lbs in some fights, which is absolutely unthinkable for Pacman, that is already too heavy for his size and actually fighting beyond his natural weight category.
     
  7. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    In what fight has Floyd EVER weighed more than 154??

    The guy doesnt even walk around at 154
     
  8. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    pacs flaws, slopply balaance, counterpunchers, body punches, no jab, no inside game and he beats floyd? He missed a 1000 punches against a stationary clottey right!!
     
  9. progamer

    progamer Boxing Junkie banned

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    yep but needs to be tested.:good

    pedjr only fights bums.:hi:
     
  10. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Give me documented proof that any of Floyd's team: Roger, Sr, FMJ himself, heck throw in Ellerbe there or even 50, that would say that FMJ can still compete at 135 then sure.
    On the other hand, I have credible source with both Pac and Roach saying that Pac's perfect weight is 140. And yes I posted a link. A national news publication having Pac and Roach ON THE RECORD saying they can make 140.
    If you have half a brain you'd understand the weight of those statements.

    Pac is the draw. If he will go down in weight he will go down for somebody who is at least an equal draw or someone bigger. Like the FMJ's or ODLH's of the boxing world.
    And of the boxers you named, only Amir is marketable. And when Amir was relevant, he and Pac were training under Roach and promised to not fight each other.
    And none of those were even big names when Pac was facing Clottey and Mosley. And yes, "old grandpa Mosley" would outsell all the others by a huge margin. A HUGE MARGIN. Pac Mosley did 1.34M PPV buys. WTF were you smoking?
    He fought Clottey as a keep-busy fight while they were making the FMJ fight. Why the hell would he go down in weight and further screw up his mega-fight with FMJ?
    He went down to 144 to make the JMM fight happen. Why? Over 1.4M PPV buys. Now THAT is a marketable name. Garcia my ass.
    Know your history.

    Again you are a ******. Plain and simple.
    Pac is on record saying his perfect weight right now is 140.
    You have FMJ not honoring a 144 catchweight and your trump card: hearsay from sparring partners. Sure. You got this. Very credible source indeed.






    ******.
     
  11. STB

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    Why are you putting emphasis on people SAYING stuff???

    People can SAY whatever the **** they want. Wheres the proof??

    Jeez, whats so hard to understand?? I dont care WHO says he can make 140, the fact is, he hasnt in 5 friggin years!!!

    Are you kidding??, old mosely coming off a draw to Sergio Mora and a one sided beating to Floyd wasnt selling anything!

    Thats why the PPV numbers were so bad.

    However if you want evidence of his camp members saying he can make 140, type" Mayweather Sr: Floyd Jr. would dominate at 140" into google, you'll get a link to eastsideboxing saying Floyd snr thinks Floyd Junior can make 140. Happy???? Does this mean he can?

    I cant post links

    Not only are you a ******, you're one who doesnt bother using google
     
  12. STB

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    ...ths was the other link I was talking about. About him making 135. Does it mean he can. Of course not. Youtube "J'Leon Love, Floyd is really a Lightweight, let him keep robbing the bank"

    All this proves is thyat people can SAY whatever random **** they want. It doesnt prove anything
     
  13. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac-Mosley did 1.34M PPV. You think that is a bad financial move?
    Mosley is a draw. It doesn't matter if he pulled off a lackluster performance against Mora.
    That's something that idiots like you would never understand.

    WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY GO DOWN TO 140 IF THERE ARE NO FIGHTS THERE?
    Are you a special kind of ****** to not understand that statement?
    Let me spell if out for you: The only reason they are considering to go down to 140 right now is because there are no more big names in WW and Pac's star power is fading. The reason they weren't going down to 140 is because Bradley, JMM and the possibility of a FMJ clash is at least 10x bigger than any of the no-names in 140 in recent years.

    This article: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/2012/mayweather-sr-floyd-jr-would-dominate-at-140/
    is dated October 2012. That is 2 years ago.
    And that probably would've meant he could've except that just 3 years prior to that, FMJ IS ON RECORD BREAKING A 144 CATCHWEIGHT AGAINST JMM.
    Can you explain to me how your ******ed brain is justifying that move other than the obvious reason that FMJ CAN'T MAKE EVEN 144 ANYMORE.

    You are incredibly stupid I'm beginning to think that you and MVC and MichiganWarrior are the same.
    I'm getting "floored" by your intelligence here.
     
  14. STB

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    You're actually irritating you're so stupid.

    Ill just ask one question. Why do you care what people SAY? People can say whatever they want and not have to back it up.

    Pac hasnt fought at 140 in 5 years.

    If there isnt any big money fights for Pac at 140, then why the **** would Floyd ever go to 140?

    If you think he cant make 144, then I dfont know what to tell you. If there was a huge money fight and he had to make 144, you think he couldnt??? KNOWING he weighs 148-149 A MONTH before a fight??

    Really?

    You asked for a link showing someone in his camp saying he could make 140, I showed you one from as little as 18 months ago. Apparently thats all the proof you need. Someone saying stuff.
     
  15. Typhoon

    Typhoon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    1. Who has Mayweather fought that is as fast as Pacqiao with Pacqiao's punching power? NO-ONE. He has cherry picked slow fighters, especially in past 10 years. Looking at his past opponents, you cannot argue he has fought better fighters than Pacqiao

    2. How do you determine skill? Where is Mayweather more skilled than Pacqiao? Physically, they are close, both as fast but i would argue Pac can throw more combinations and come at an opponent from more angles. IMO Pacqiao is the more skilled offensive fighter; Mayweather doesn't have Pac's punching power nor can he match Pacquaio's arsenal of punches and angle of attack. Having said this, Floyd is the better tactician, technician and fights the more cautious, smarter fights. Due to this, he is more difficult to beat but makes him less exciting. Pacman takes a lot more risks on the ring, thus part of why he has 5 losses. Talentwise, i don't think anyone can make any coherent argument that Floyd is superior; they are both extremely gifted physically.
     
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