If Hopkins were to comfortably outpoint both Stevenson and Kovalev...

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  1. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ...Where could you feasibly rate him all-time?

    I dare say top ten if this was to occur in his fiftieth year.
     
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    Pimp C Too Much Motion

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    I gave him around top 35 right now but if he cleans out 175 at 50 probably top 15 to 20. Although a good case could be made to be ranked even higher.
     
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    cslb Puerto Rican Uppercut Full Member

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    Probably within top 35.
     
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  4. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :deal No doubt!
     
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  5. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Top 20.
     
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  6. Garrus

    Garrus Big Boss 1935-2014 Full Member

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    Top 35.
     
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  7. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    When talking about ATG's and resumes, you don't really get more credit for a win just because you are past your prime. The state of your opponents' career affects what a performance over them means, but the aged or declining state of your own career doesn't make wins magically better.

    Kovalev and Stevenson are great at the moment and wins over them are mighty impressive. But lets face it. If both retired today, Kovalev would be known for great power, ending a mans' life in the ring, and beating Cleverly for a paper title in the UK while Stevenson would be known for great power and for one punch TKO'ing Chad Dawson for the lineal title. Not much more beyond that for either of them at all. Hardly anything truly amazing in the history of the sport. Lets not get carried away in the moment.
     
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  8. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Shut up hater
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Hopkins becomes Undisputed WBC+WBA+WBO+IBF I put him Above Mayweather/Pacman

    Very long shot though, cause all odds are against him
     
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  10. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    What about that post was being a "hater?"

    I probably rank Hopkins higher than you do on an ATG list... sooooooo, yeah.
     
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  11. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    he's already top 10-15 imo. a win over either is icing on the cake.
     
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  12. FutureChampGG

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    Wow let's not get carried away here. 10-15 is way too high for a guy who dropped 2 decisions to Jermaine Taylor.

    Losses count in ATG rankings as well kids :deal
     
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  13. shanahan14

    shanahan14 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    So does a guy who lost to Leon Spinks.


    Anyhow, I think if Hopkins beat these two it wouldn't matter. People would just say they were tailor made for Hopkins.
     
    shanahan14, Apr 21, 2014
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  14. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    longevity counts
    accomplishment counts
    title defenses counts
    quality of opponsition counts


    he has the longest reign at middleweight in history

    wins over hof'ers
    trinidad
    dlh
    roy jones
    tarver


    first and only guy in history to unify wbc, wba, ibf, wbo and ring titles.

    jumped 2 weight classes to light heavyweight and won titles there....

    49yrs old and just unified two of the belts at light heavy.

    his resume reads like a who's who over the last 3 decades.

    if he goes on to beat stevenson and kovalev to unify at 175 he will have placed himself above floyd as this eras best fighter.
     
    daprofessor, Apr 21, 2014
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  15. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you have Hopkins top 35, you must have Calzaghe top 15:yep
     
    lefthandlead, Apr 21, 2014
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