Golden Boy started the cold war with their greed and abuse of power

thats why we are getting floyd-maidana such a high quality fight

 

Hi Bob Arum.

How are the early numbers looking for your recent PPV?

 

There was a time not long ago when the HBO matchmaking went to **** and now Showtime seems to be heading in that direction.

 

OP is 100%. The decision to not do further business with GB likely came from the top of HBO, well above Hershman. You don't use HBO for show case fights and then put those fighters in bigger fights on Showtime while counter programming against HBO fights. HBO was developing content for their primary competitor who's been gaining ground on them. HBO would likely leave boxing altogether before giving GB another shot.

Meanwhile GB/Espinoza walk a fine line. When the cold war first started, they had a lot of guys who looked like they were going to be stars, today some of their fighters having taking some bumps along the way. Alvarez and Broner both got embarrassed in defeats, Garcia looked poor in his last, and if the Mayweather-Madaina event does poor the ppv sales it'll bring their momentum to a standstill. Alvarez staying on low key ppv and Broner in rebuild mode, and Mayweather without a big name opponent for Sept, Espinoza's job security could come into question at the end of the year, and the GB relationship with Showtime could follow.

 

ortiz/berto was a foty candidate.

 

Arum flat out declared after the ass whipping Mosley gave the cheat that he wouldn't make the same mistake again, the mistake in question being working with another promoter. Up until very recently Top Rank only ever went out of house when their fighters enjoyed a sizable advantage (like the one the cheat was supposed to have over Mosley), and even at this point they largely work with the smallest of the small third party promoters. This is why Mosley was not an attractive opponent for Pacquiao in the immediate aftermath of the Mora fight but became one as a free agent and this is why Marquez's lack of welterweight credentials was used as a justification to not give him the Pacquiao fight until he had beaten world beater Likar Ramos. Both promoters have largely attempted to be as insular as possible; the fact that Top Rank can't afford to be as much in the past does not override their history.

Also your account of the Chavez-Martinez situation is not accurate at all. Showtime had already won the rights to Alvarez's next announced PPV well before Lopez was even on the table and Chavez-Martinez was merely theoretical. It wasn't a case of HBO preferring the higher quality fight, it was a matter of them losing out on a bid while said higher quality fight wasn't any closer to a reality than it had been the previous 3 times Top Rank declared Chavez-Martinez would happen "next."

 

Hindsight in always 20/20. Berto/Ortiz was FOTY and both looked promising, even if unproven.

 

I mean Berto wasn't even with Golden Boy during the period in question. Not even getting simple details like that right pretty shoots your credibility right there.

 

Then Bob Arum should be your least favorite person involved in the sport.

 

goldenboy has become al haymons stable of fighters taking easy fights and getting overpaid

 

The entire opening post, every point you make, shows that the fault is on the incompetency of HBO decision-makers. Everything you say also shows smart business moves on the part of Golden Boy to take advantage of what HBO's horrible brains would approve of.