John Murray Should Retire

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014.


Page 1 of 2
  1. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,252
    8
    Jun 11, 2013
    He hasnt learnt anything in the last three years no improvement whatsoever, in fact hes gone backwards.

    I like Crolla but Saturday night wasnt about him being good John Murray is very average and shopworn with no defence and very poor accuracy.

    I would pick Burns to beat Crolla easy but to be fair to Ant hes an entertaining fighter.
     
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    #1
  2. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,290
    1
    Feb 11, 2014
    Sounds very Punchy now to me , enoughs enough imo time to walk away and preserve his health as hes already had 1 scare
     
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    #2
  3. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,252
    8
    Jun 11, 2013
    I think so mate and hes not improved at all inm three years.

    Taking the fight with Crolla was silly when you think of how long it was since hed done the 12 rounds how active Crolla has been in the last two and a half years.

    Murray again just had the mentality that he was going to walk trhough Crolla like he had done Buckland etc a few years ago.
     
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    #3
  4. ant-man

    ant-man ant Full Member

    6,254
    1
    May 13, 2009
    :deal
     
    ant-man, Apr 22, 2014
    ant-man, Apr 22, 2014
    #4
  5. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,290
    1
    Feb 11, 2014
    Agreed mate its clear as day he cant go into the late rounds as he was Gassed past 6 and was the same against Mitchell and Rios , Stamina seems a real issue after hes blown himself out in the first 4/5 rounds , Not sure a move up to LWW would do any good as hes taken to many blows imho
     
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    #5
  6. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,252
    8
    Jun 11, 2013
    Dont think hes got the power to survive at LWW either mate
     
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    #6
  7. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,290
    1
    Feb 11, 2014
    Agreed mate i think its time to hang em up
     
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    #7
  8. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,252
    8
    Jun 11, 2013
    To be honest i can see why Joe turned down fights John wanted there seems to be no thought behind his actions.

    Surley after two years out you wouldnt jump straight into a 12 rounder with a rival in a highly charged emotional fight when you havent done the distance since March 2011.

    He should of built himself up slowly there was no rush hes 29
     
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    #8
  9. Southpawology

    Southpawology Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,288
    272
    Dec 16, 2013
    Agreed, he takes way to many shots...

    He's also fights using a young mans style, retirement really is the only option for me

    I think the Rio fight really took a lot away from him, when he gets beaten he gets severely beaten...

    That's 3 brutal hammerings he has taken and he's has not even adapted his style after any of the prev 2

    Def time to get out
     
    Southpawology, Apr 22, 2014
    Southpawology, Apr 22, 2014
    #9
  10. Izaak97

    Izaak97 Active Member Full Member

    1,424
    108
    May 9, 2012
    To be fair to Murray he was ahead on 2 scorecards at the time of the stoppage. Maybe if he had a better gameplan and paced himself better he could have won.

    In my opinion there is no need to retire as there are a lot of good domestic match ups for him in the LW division. Murray vs Flanagan could be a good fight and would probably sell a decent amount of tickets considering they're both from Manchester.
     
    Izaak97, Apr 22, 2014
    Izaak97, Apr 22, 2014
    #10
  11. rampant

    rampant Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,631
    9
    Feb 24, 2011
    Probably too late to change his style that's the way he fights, he put's too much into the first half of a fight, he does need to try and pace it better but again it's probably too late and he's been bashed up quite bad in his last few fights .
     
    rampant, Apr 22, 2014
    rampant, Apr 22, 2014
    #11
  12. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

    14,252
    8
    Jun 11, 2013
    Flannegan would beat him quite easily if he could withstand the pressure Murray would bring in the first foud, in fact id pick Flannegan to win by stoppage.
     
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    TERRYTIBBS, Apr 22, 2014
    #12
  13. JonStevo10

    JonStevo10 Well-Known Member Full Member

    1,615
    2
    May 28, 2013
    I'd like to see him fight Scott Harrison.
     
    JonStevo10, Apr 22, 2014
    JonStevo10, Apr 22, 2014
    #13
  14. Izaak97

    Izaak97 Active Member Full Member

    1,424
    108
    May 9, 2012
    I reckon it would be a good 50/50 scrap but I definitely wouldn't pick Flanagan to stop him. Couldn't see Murray getting stopped by a guy with 7 ko's in 23 wins.
     
    Izaak97, Apr 22, 2014
    Izaak97, Apr 22, 2014
    #14
  15. Stevie 79

    Stevie 79 Well-Known Member Full Member

    2,290
    1
    Feb 11, 2014
    No millage imo does nothing for neither man
     
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    Stevie 79, Apr 22, 2014
    #15
Page 1 of 2