When Gary Russell TKOs Lomachenko will he be a superstar??

Me too. I just hope Loma doesn't suffer an eye injury in training although I hear he still wears his head gear.

 

Loma certainly needs some pro experience under his belt. Kid might as well have been mugged by Salido who was obviously willing to sacrifice the belt to get the W over the young pretender by coming in overweight.

GRJ - well let's see - I know you were just trying to ruffle some feathers with the thread title (it's hard to find any thread that isn't trolling to a degree these days tho) but it definitely is an 'if' not a 'when' - IMO GRJ woulda been destroyed by a 145 Salido - but I guess we just wait and see, styles make fights etc.

Me, I think it'll be Loma who wins, but beating him will say more about Lomachenkos unreadiness than than GRJs stardom IMO.

On thing I'm confident of is that GBP will use every trick in the book to maximise their home advantage - kicking the legs out from under Arums future star would be a significant coup and Loma's gonna need a stoppage or to clearly win almost every round (kids team might be advised to watch his waterbottles closely as well, LOL).

Props to SSG BTW... given the ahem... ethnic rivalries involved between him and some other (possibly paler) posters, a promise to support Loma should he win is, indeed, a greater commitment than most would be willing to undertake.

 

Hey, I got to tell you.
All this ethnic crap involved in many of these threads aren't for me.
I mean, it's only natural for people to support the different groups they belong to, but some of these ethnic hatred threads are bordering on insanity.
I love the sport of boxing. When it comes down to it, I could care less if the boxer is Russian, Korean, American, English or any other nation honoring the sport.

If Loma can show that he has the stuff to be a future Hopkins, Chavez Sr. or like others who have mastered the sweet science, I'll be more than happy to follow his career from that point on.

That being said, there seems to be a fundamental difference between the art of boxing displayed by different nations.

For example, many of my favorite boxers are from the US and Cuba, and their philosophy of boxing seems to have very fundamental differences, sometimes completely opposite of Russia and Europe.

The question is, can this fundamental divide be bridged by someone will is able to merge these two different philosophical differences?

 

Yep one of the ones im looking foward too the most this summer

 

It's on me for thinking he may have. I should have known better. Good te see others got the reference.

 

Agree all round in the styles difference issue - it may be that a coupla of the fighters I'm most excited for right now happen to be Russian - European stylistically but that sure as hell doesn't stop me from appreciating fighters from the US or elsewhere (with a special fondnss for the Cubans - a big part of my introduction to the sport was through the am side).

I look forward towards seeing how the increasingly international pro sport adapts - will we see a contnuation of distinct 'styles' with perhaps eventually distinct Asian or African styles emerging? Or will we see a gradual synthesis as the different styles adapt to each others unique stylistic challenges?

With regards to your bet offer though I was being entirely genuine, there's a good number of posters (who know who they are) who'd far rather stop posting than acknowledge appeciating a fighter of the 'wrong' colour. Guess that's how you know who the real racists are.

 

I'm sure over time and continued cross immigration and competition we will see a possible merger of different cultural boxing styles.
Like the differences between GongFu and Karate merged.

Due to the period where I grew up many of the champions of the time were boxers like Sugar Ray Leonard and Larry Holmes, booth boxers. So I find myself more impressed and entertained by these styles versus pure punchers like Foreman or Tyson. Not that Tyson wasn't skilled but at the time he had no rival pure boxer to compliment him.

Seriously though, if Loma beats GRJ in style, then I will surely become among his fan base. However, I don't believe that will happen. :smoke

 

Damn, you might be even older than me. I do remember Teofilo Stevenson at the '80 Olynpics when I was 8 on my grandparents (colour!) TV - then a kinda hiatus until the late 80s (the vaguries of UK terrestrial TV weren't fertile ground) when my Da started talking 'bout Tyson. It was mainly just the major UK fights that got broadcast here though.

LOma - GRL though? - I got Loma.

 

More than Lara Canelo or GGG Chavez?

 

More than GGG-Chavez even with Canelo-Lara

 

Who cares about regional and junior ****, when he stepped up to the senior... he lost 16-6 to the first world level guy he fought (the same guy Lomachenko stopped and beat 12-1), which is maybe why he hasn't stepped up as a pro. That other guy is talking about wasting time in the amateurs.... Look at what GRJ has done since he turned pro, if that's not wasting time I don't know what is.
In Beijing 2008, GRJ passed out and didn't fight, Lomachenko demolished everyone winning the final with a first round stoppage and winning the Val Barker trophy.
Since then... Lomachenko has won two world championships and another Olympic gold in a different weight division, he dominated in the WSB, he turned pro in spectacular fashion and then he narrowly lost an SD in a title fight in an attempt to make history in his second pro bout. GRJ has....... fought 24 bums, culminating in a stoppage of a blown up flyweight in his most recent bout. It's quite comical when you actually compare what they've done in the same time period. Oh but Lomachenko has been wasting his time in the junior leagues while Russell has been honing his pro skills

 

Yada yada yada,

GRJ TKO 5 !!!!!!!!!! :yep

 

What happened here?

[url]http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post/_/id/8753/lomachenkos-60-percent-cut-stands[/url]

GRJ TKO5 against TBA in his next bout wouldn't surprise me at all!!! :yep

 

tbh if Russel pulls out of this his a disgrace

 

No biggie!

Arum is a master of the shell game. He's a con man supreme.
This is the same shell game Arum setup for Pacquiao that got him in tax trouble with the IRS and
Philippine

The split was upheld, but the article didn't say a dam thing about Russell pulling out of the fight, so don't get your hopes up.
60/40 split or not, Loma's still going to take this ass whupping. The
extra 10% can be used to buy a mask for after the fight while his face heals.
s.

So stop jumping up for joy thinking your boy is going to avoid this KO and 1-2 record glossing come June. :yep