Joe Louis vs Lennox Lewis

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  1. janitor

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    Be as mean as you want, mate. I'll stick with boxing, too if you don't mind. It's the only sport I win money on, like when I picked Rahman in his first fight with Lennox.

    I repeat: How does Lennox out box Joe but he couldn't out box Bruno? What am I missing?
     
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    These analogies are pretty much meaningless.

    I mean after Louis lost against Schmeling what would most have expected the outcome to be in a rematch?

    What if there had never been a rematch?

    The point is you can't really tax one or even two fights out of a career and extrapolate that into much of anything. You have to look at the entire body of work of both fighters to get any decent assessment as to what the outcome might be. And certainly that only gets you an educated guess at best since either fight could win.

    So I assume you then lost money in the Lewis- Rahman rematch? Or did you know Lewis wasn't going to be property climatized when he fought him the first time?
     
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    Morrison was a serious puncher. Pinklon Thomas reckons Morrison had something in his gloves.

    Morrison never hit Foreman with his best punch. He wasn't stupid enough to try it. He fought running away, with made sense.
     
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    I'm saying, and continue to say, that you can't compare eras!! A 1940 prime Lennox is lighter and less chisleled and compromised by the training and limits of THAT era. A prime 2000 Louis is a 215-220-ish chisleled machine. I love the classic forum but I'm sick of trying to match so and so with so and so when your're about a half century (or more!) apart.
    It's ridiculous, but the threads keep a comin'! :D
     
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    Louis would ko Lennox
     
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    I had read about his preparation and thought he was distracted. I agree these fights are just fun to imagine and pontificate on; there are no certainties in fictional matches.

    I have no problem with anyone picking Lennox to win, but I think some are selling Joe short as a boxer. I think Lewis's best chance would've been to use the size advantage he had, physically overpowering Joe.

    He had the tools, but did he have the mindset?
     
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    I suppose you'd have to ask Grant, Golota, Ruddock or Botha.
     
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    I agree with the strategy you've suggested. As to the mindset I think he had it. For the most part he was fairly adaptable in doing what needed to be done to get the result. Against Tua he was able to box his way to an easy decision because that's what the circumstances dictated. Against Ruddock he went into super aggressive mode, so that he could be the first one to inflict damage. And against Vitali, he was forced to forget about boxing and turn it into a street fight, so he was fairly adaptable in my opinion.
     
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    An ounce of technique is worth a pound of power. But we're talking about 40 pounds.
     
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    Fair play, Lennox could certainly turn it on, and more often than not did. A very dangerous guy to be sure.
     
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    You have a highly inflated opinion of your own worth, as evidenced by your moronic claim that Bruno out jabbed Lewis. However I am flattered that you stalk me.
     
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    Joe Louis was slower than molasses on his feet. That GUARANTEES Lennox Lewis could hit him at will with the jab, and bomb him with the right hand.

    Goodnight nurse after the 1st one of those huge rights land. Its actually a slaughter. Joe doesn't hear the bell to end the 2nd round.
     
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