Why didn't Tyson use any head movement in the Buster Douglas fight?

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  1. dayuum

    dayuum Active Member Full Member

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    I know he barely prepared for the fight but he constantly had his hands down without much head movement
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because he was partying everyday and didn't train at all! ZZZZZZZZZ!

    I don't believe all the excuses, facts are he got his ass kicked, Douglas on that night would have always beaten Tyson.
     
  3. janitor

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    That is the precisely kind of thing that a lazy and poorly prepared fighter will not bother with.
     
  4. baconmaker

    baconmaker Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    1985 Tyson vs 1990 Douglas. Who wins it?
     
  5. bonzo7580

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    tyson and quickly .
     
  6. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Douglas again by late stoppage or UD.
     
  7. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson wasn't motivated before the fight. However fact of the matter is that Douglas put on a hell of a fight and came out "The heavyweight champion of the world" So obiously he did something right.
     
  8. TheOldTimer

    TheOldTimer Active Member Full Member

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    He didn't turn up fighting fit and hadn't been simulating the movement and elusiveness that got him to the top in practice.
     
  9. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Douglas.. Tyson was 18 years old in 1985 with a dozen fights.
     
  10. Meazy-E

    Meazy-E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why promote the lie that Tyson didnt train? He turned up in as good shape as ever.
     
  11. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Douglas. By the end of 1985,Tyson was still a novice. The Tyson of late '86 to '89 beats the Douglas of Tokyo.
     
  12. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was n't in shape at all. That's not taking anything away from Douglas who put on the performance of his life.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    Nothing to do with shape. Watch the fight. Douglas had Tyson buy fients.

    Tyson stopped moving his head because he was paying a price moving it. Douglas had him buying feints all damn night.

    He moved it to the left he got hit with a right hand. Moved it right he got a left hook in return. His answer was to not move his head.

    Watch the first round. Tyson moved his head!! He started getting hit so he stopped it.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He moved his head in the first round of the Lewis fight, too. When he gets tired he (which took three minutes at that age) he just abandons it. Anyone remember of the top of their heads what his head movement was like in Ruddock II?
     
  15. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I think Tyson had abandoned head movement altogether by then but he later went back to it early in fights. I think he was just looking to launch Ruddock, but I will have to review the fight.

    For Douglas Tyson was still into head movement. He'd been programmed to do it but some how Douglas was able to time his movement by getting him to react to a feint. There was a lack of imagination on TYsons part, he had been so successful until then that he was at a loss what to do when something did not work. He kept getting caught and could not work out why.

    Later Lewis coppied this. Once Tyson was tired he would move it side to side before a punch came. His feet did not follow with the head movement. Lewis would pull the trigger to catch TYsons head on the way back in much the way Foreman timed Fraziers head to come up after it went down.