Callum Smith is to be fast tracked to a world title

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  1. Uchiyama

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    in a Joe Gallagher interview on the sky sports website...

    Callum Smith made it eight knockouts in a row - how do you see him being moved this year?

    I want to move him fast, I don't want him having hard rounds at British level, I want him to get in, earn his money and get out. If the British title is there to fight for then great, but I don't want him putting mileage on making silly defences. I can see him having two more fights and fighting for a world title. I'd put him in with James DeGale in the next 12 months - this time next year I want to see Callum's name in lights.


    do you think this is a good move or not? I think it's a little soon, I think he should be fast tracked to european level because of the talent he shown but to be fighting for a world title in 3 fights is to soon imo.
     
  2. Boxing Prospect

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    Gallagher is talking crap if he even thinks that's realistic. I like Smith, great talent and far better than his brothers but he's not a "super talent" like the Inoue brothers or Kosei Tanaka. He's not in the position to be rushed like that and with just 23 rounds under his belt so far, 6 against Acosta, he really isn't ready.

    Rush him to British in 2 fights for sure-if his brother vacates, European in 5 fights-Christopher Rebrasse isn't a walk over, then World in maybe 7-10 more fights if a selectively poor champion is there. Don't dream of putting him in with Ward.
     
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    Ones a world champion in 6 bouts and just beat the WBC champion, the others are highly touted fighter who have broken in to the world rankings after 2 fights.

    I have got to apologise for forgetting that Europe was the centre of the boxing world, I was under the feeling that this was a global sport and in fact the Latinos tended to provide more top fighters than the Europeans. Obviously that was wrong...

    RE their amateur success, you're right they didn't do much on the international stage as amateurs...neither did plenty of other fighters.
     
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    ...and like many boxing fans, do you also complain about how garbage the Heavyweight division is?
     
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    Yeah cos Argentina are **** as well...Venzuela has never produced anyone of note and Panama, gah whoever has come from Panama?

    I'm British and I know what a "Latino" is, so maybe, just maybe, you need to go back to school.

    If you really think Europe has developed the best boxers I feel rather sorry for you. I guess we've developed better fighters than Leonard, Robinson, Hearns, Duran (Latino), Chavez (Chavez), Arguello (Latino), Mayweather, Al Brown (guess what, another Latino), Hagler, Mayweather, Greb....
     
  6. Uchiyama

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    I thought this was a Callum Smith thread lol......................
     
  7. Uchiyama

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    I like Inoue but I think Callum Smith is better
     
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    Like I said, you probably need to go back to school if you've never heard the word, either that or you're deaf.

    Most of Europe couldn't turn pro? So the French, Spanish, British, Irish, German, Scandinavian and Italian's couldn't turn pro until the USSR broke down?

    Right now the UK has 3 world champions, that's less than the number Japan has between 118 and 130 and heck 2 of the Brits there are paper champions!

    Kazahkstan always win medals. Yeah you're right, but they are in Asia and not Europe (at least 90% of the country is anyway) Argentina has won 24 which puts them 9th on the table.

    As for World Amateur medals, England only has 1 Gold (Gavin) That's fewer than South Korea and equal with Thailand. You know, those amatuer power houses! Venezuela have won more World Amateur medals (11) than England or Ireland!
     
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    ...not quite sure on your point but anyway...but yeah, well done, Japan have been notoriously bad at "amateur" boxing on the world scene due to the way they develop their young fighters to a style more suited to the professional ranks.

    From a post on *********** back in 2010 the professional top 10 were:
    1. USA - 431
    2. Mexico - 113
    3. Japan - 56
    4. England - 50
    5. Korea - 44
    6. Puerto Rico - 43
    7. Thailand - 38
    8. Argentina/Philippines - 34
    9. France/Venezuela - 33
    10. Columbia - 31

    That's 4 Asian countries and 3 latino countries, just 2 European
     
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    Again, you don't seem to realise I'm British and understand that boxing is a global sport but anyway..

    Japan for example has (According to boxrec):
    3 Heavyweights
    4 Cruiserweights
    1 Light Heavyweight
    4 Super Middleweights
     
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    Styles of fighters from various nations may, or may not, be suited to the amateurs. Look at the US in recent years, they haven't been winning much in terms of medals. Incidentally at the London Games there were 4 medals for Kazahkstan, 3 medals for China, 2 medals for Japan, 2 medals for Mongolia, 1 for South Korea, 1 for Thailand, 2 for Azerbajan, 1 for Tajikstan, 1 for India and 1 for Uzbekistan. All of which are Asian countries.

    There was just 15 combined for the US, Cuba, Ukraine and Russia
     
  12. Uchiyama

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    You 2 have ruined the thread!

    Im a fan of Japanese boxers myself and Im mixed raced. But come on don't spin the facts too much. Azerbaijan is in europe, Kazakhstan is partly in europe, they learned boxing through the soviet union school of boxing and a lot of their boxers are of european descent. For their populations the stats are poor, you have to admit that, if you can't admit that then you are deluded. Youd expect China, Japan, etc etc to do much better considering their populations. In the amateurs you just get one or two that are good apart from the Kazakhs( who could be classed as european), and in the pros apart from Japan in the lower weights all the other asian nations are poor. The truth is the truth
     
  13. Uchiyama

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    is there a way to delete threads on here gone way off topic...
    mods delete
     
  14. Boxing Prospect

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    Azerbaijan is transcontintnetal, Kazahkstan has about 10% of it's land in Europe. They may have learned from the Soviets but geographically they aren't European.

    I'd agree that China should be doing better though, as with much of Eastern Europe, it's not been legal to fight professionally there.

    I am sorry for the topic being ruined though, especially as it looks like I've been talking to myself for much of it and my originaly post has been pretty much lost as a result.

    Callum is talented, but can't be rushed that much :good
     
  15. Uchiyama

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    That doesn't change the fact China always been able to compete in the amateurs and haven't done much at all.

    haha he must have been banned