Why didn't Tyson use any head movement in the Buster Douglas fight?

There is a ton of proof that Tyson didn't prepare for Douglas. I am friends with Jose Ribalta on Facebook. He was the one next in line for a crack at Tyson but he got decked against Simms on the Tyson-Williams undercard. He saw Tyson partying it up in Miami a couple weeks before the fight. McCall, Berbick and Page all knew he wasn't prepared. They're in the boxing circles. Guys in the know with first hand accounts.

 

Filthy s.e.x. beast? What's on your mind kid?

 

Sugar Ray Leonard commented on the fight and he said straight away Tyson didnt seem like he was all there.

Wass + Foxy01 + Markclitheroe = Unforgiven

 

Why dont you answer the points i put to you previously?

funny how you claim to be a Tyson critic, questioning Tyson greatness yet avoided every single i made directly towards you

Theres a pattern emereging here on this thread, you, Unforgiven, Wass and that other idiot Foxy01 seem to have the exact same agenda

a) constantly knock Tysons greateness and also bring in his personal life into that judgment

b) label Tyson fans as nuthuggers

Most likely because you're all the exact same person

 

Boxed Ears, Mr. Bill, Foreman Hook wannabe! :yep

 

Bro, its the same guy with multiple alts.

Is the only way he can have any chance of winning a debate hes got no chance of winning.

Unforgiven, Was1985, Foxy01, Markclitheroe is the same person

Just read back on the posts

Same agenda, same posts. Just varying extremes

 

I think Boxed Ears was Frankenfrank as well.

 

Sonny,

He trained roughly three weeks.....Fact. Everybody on the inside knew that but it was not seen as a problem because the general opinion was that Holyfield is washed up.

His training was also interupted becuase he had to fly to NY for court appearances in the Rooney lawsuit and all what he did beside that was partying.

However he had a dedicated training camp for the re match and was in terrific physical shape but his mental make up was poor.

 

Theres actually no point debating with this clown, he'll either rubbish your claims, or bring up some Tyson s e x stories or something

Holyfield himself said Tyson was rushed into fighting him, he did an interview on ESB a few years ago

 

Bull****! Ian Darke mentions during the fight that Tyson himself said he trained his ass off for the fight, do you ******s really believe that he would take Holyfield lightly????

Please don't copy and paste all the bull**** excuses Tyson came out with after he got his ass kicked because that's all they are, Excuses!!

And we all saw what the coward did in the second fight, he knew he was in for another ass kicking so the animal decided to bite and then blames headbutts like a little *****. Poor Mike one of the dirtiest fighters out there couldn't handle it when he was in the ring with someone just as rough as him!!

 

I personally give Tyson a pass for not training against Douglas, it is a mainstream opinion that he didn't prepare properly, its also a mainstream opinion that the earth is round. mainstream opinions sometimes mean that's exactly what happened. I still think Mike would have had a hell of a time beating "that" Buster, even fully prepared.

I think he has less of an excuse in the Holy 96 fight, I'd wager he trained for that fight as well as he did Bruno. I don't think Tyson is beyond deluding himself a bit. In the Toback film he mentions thinking he is great and was partying hard but it came across as a convenient excuse, he obviously wasn't in the zone of being great again if that's the case, which is his fault. What Mike cant face about that fight is that Holyfield was just too tough. He doesn't like to face some issues, such as the ear bite, the real reason he did it.

You can say the prison years hurt but Holyfled nearly had a cardiac arrest in a previous fight. you could say that's a reason Mike took him lightly but that's on him, Evandar showed his greatness, Mike didn't and that's the bottom line.

Tyson was a different fighter when he came out of prison, we all know that but the fact is he didn't have the mental strength to come back. Its all ifs with Mike and as a big fan of his I get tired of it. I just believe he would always have had a short prime no matter what, I think the psychological side is something people sometimes ignore when it comes to greatness, Mike never had real greatness in him, its all what ifs and imaginary, you can only go by what he actually did in reality. I prefer to see him as the most exciting heavy of all times, not the greatest.

 

Exactly, Mike would have probably been beaten by "that" Douglas at any point of his career. Quick Tillis gave Mike all he could handle, hell even a washed up Larry Holmes was doing well until he got caught. Just imagine what Douglas would have been doing to him.

 

Proves my point

some morons refuse to acknowledge anything apart from the crap swimming around in their own head

I gave you Tysons own account and Holyfields as well and what i saw with my own eyes, but you keep pulling Ian Darke out of your a$$. Tyson was gassing after the 4th round, hardly signs of a fighter who'd been "training his a$$ off"

The commentators on the fight stated right at the end that it seemed Tyson had taken Holyfield lightly.

Tyson said "I knew Holyfield was a good fighter, but i knew he was not in my league though"

At their press conference, Tyson was mocking Holyfield telling him he's old with nothing left.

Those points hardly show a fighter who was "training his a$$ off"

Was Ian Darke there was he? I take Holyfields own opinions over Ian Darke

 

Tillis was an experienced journeyman going in against a young kid who'd not fought any experienced fighters up until that point. Tillis on the other hand had been in with the likes of Biggs, Coetzee, Frazier, Witherspoon, Williams, Page, Thomas, Shavers and Weaver all before facing Tyson.

Now i know your full of sh%%. Holmes didnt do NOTHING in that fight, Tyson very quickly wore him down and KHTFO. Yes Holmes had about 30 seconds of sucess where he started popping the jab and dancing, just minutes before Tyson put him on his backside.

 

Are you just dumb or ignorant?? Ian Darke mentions that Tyson, the man himself said that he was in terrific shape for the fight!! Only a ****** like you really believes that he would take Holyfield lightly!!