Why didn't Tyson use any head movement in the Buster Douglas fight?

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  1. Foxy 01

    Foxy 01 Boxing Junkie banned

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    No the lady concerned was quite happy to write about his little dick, and recommend he go back to his Ladyboys, and gay partners.

    Didn't you know thats why Robin Givens got rid of the *****, cos he couldn't perform like Eddie Murphy? Thats also why he always raped and abused teenaged girls. Grown women took one look at him, and laughed like fvck.
     
  2. TheOldTimer

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    :lol:
    He might not have a record but he could fight, he taught his own style of boxing, taught three hall of famers, tutored fighters who went on to be subessful trainers in Atlas Rooney and Fariello. Here's a story about your great and precious Angelo Dundee one time Ali brought Cus to his camp and Dundee was shitting himself that he was about to be replaced by someone Dundee knew Ali might actually pay attention too , the same Dundee who can't fight a lick and and who was flattened by one punch by an old man in one of Leonards fights if i recall. :lol: :lol:
     
  3. Azzer85

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    And you know all of this because a) you were there and/or b) you were one of those women
     
  4. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Where's the evidence to these claims?? Let me guess, you were there???

    Or did you read it in one of Tyson's books??
     
  5. Azzer85

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    No he asked Ian Darke like you did :good
     
  6. Wass1985

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    I suppose Teddy Atlas imagined the incident before he threatened to blow Tyson's brains out??

    Move onto the subject on Tyson vs Douglas, IMO Douglas on that night would have beaten any version of Tyson.
     
  7. Wass1985

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    You really are thick as pig**** aren't you??

    Ian Darke said that Mike Tyson, the unstoppable monster, the man himself stated that he was in tip top condition for the Holyfield fight!!

    Only ******s like you and nuthuggers really believe that he would take Holyfield lightly!!
     
  8. Anh

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    Tyson in 97 you could say was in good physical shape for a 30+ year old fighter, especially a man who spent a few years in prison.

    I was routing for Holyfield in the first and second fights, when Holyfield showed Tyson he was there to fight, threw the jab, followed up with his hard shots and used his body to nullify Tyson's aggression by stepping in between Tyson's feet - the technical boxing brain of Tyson when AWOL, where as against fighters who hit back in the 86-88 fights, Tyson (visibly frustrated) yet would be patient enough to wait, move and explode his quick combinations when he saw a split second opportunity.

    People talk about Tyson's head movement being the key to winning and losing, but I believe the reality is he simply lost his head towards the end of the 80s.
     
  9. TheOldTimer

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    “I never wanted to work with Ali because of all the chaos surrounding him,” claimed D’Amato. “He invited me to his camp. When Angelo Dundee saw me he seemed a bit nervous like his position was being threatened. When I told him I had no interest in working with Ali he began to relax. Angelo, why do you put up with all this crap I asked him? He whispered in my ear that it helps me get my other fighters.” When I defended Dundee by saying that Ali would never listen to anyone, D’Amato responded, “he listened to me.”
     
  10. TheOldTimer

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    As for the KO of Dundee...
    From the Philadelphia Journal :

    DUNDEE ATTACKED

    South Philly's Angelo Dundee was attacked by an avid Sugar Ray Leonard fan following the champ's win last night at the Capital Centre.

    Dundee might have suffered a slight concussion.

    According to Capital officials, Joe Saunders, described as an aquaintance of Leonard, and Dundee, Leonard's manager, exchanged words as the Leonard entourage attempted to push toward the the dressing room. Saunders reportedly struck Dundee. He was arrested by arena security, but no charges were filed. Dundee, through a spokesman, said "he doesn't remember what happened but felt fine and was sorry about the incident."

    According to Andy Starr, an eye witness from the Charles Brotman PR firm that handled the fight for Top Rank, Inc., Dundee and Saunders argued as Angelo pushed his way through the crowd.

    "Dundee shouted at him (Saunders), 'Your the worst of them,' Starr told the Journal. "Then the guy just turned around and cold ****ed him with a right hand."
    From Tim Panaccio.
     
  11. Wass1985

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    So D'Amato assumed that he felt nervous because he was there, that's your proof??

    Like I said, Dundee and Clancy have forgotten more about boxing than you'll ever know, to slag them off because they don't worship Tyson and actually tipped Douglas to win again is comical to say the least!!
     
  12. TheOldTimer

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    From Ring Magazine - June 1980
    Joe (Pete) Saunders, once the trainer of Sugar Ray Leonard when Leonard was just starting out in the amateurs and now reduced to the ignominous role of camp follower and 'hanger on,' apparently took his frustrations out on the chin of Angelo Dundee after the Leonard-Dave (Boy) Green fight.

    From what fragmentary eye-witness reports can be pieced together, it seems that Dundee had just returned from giving Ring editor Herb Goldman his comment on the impending Leonard-Duran fight and was about to lead Leonard back to the press area for the post fight press conference when he came upon Saunders. Dundee, in the vanguard of Leonard's entourage, asked Saunders to "move" out of the way when Saunders - who ironically had driven Leonard to the Capitol Center for the fight - turned into Dundee with one explosive right, knocking Dundee to the floor.

    Dundee, who, according to Leonard "beat the count," came out of it with a slight concussion - as well as a slight injury to his pride. After all, Leonard added, "He always told me to slip punches and then come right back with one of your own"; this time the teacher didn't practice what he preached.

    But, "at least his hairpiece wasn't knocked off," Leonard quipped.
     
  13. Wass1985

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    What the **** as this got to do with anything???
     
  14. Wass1985

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    I still don't know what you're getting at here???
     
  15. TheOldTimer

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    You asked for sources i gave them too you ...