Provodnikov vs. Thurman.

network problems, ever heard of them????

 

I don't care who he beat at 140 when he was the much stronger fighter that really just bullied them and his best weapon was his head.

His skill is terrible compared to how some of you build him up from 2 very bad performances against a paq that coasted and a never was and never will be prov. he is trying to compete at ww and he lacks the skills to do so..

He has b level skills. B level isn't bad, it's just not enough to hang with any of the top 10 ww

 

atschatsch:verysad:verysad

 

There isn't anything you can take from the Chavez fight that could be applied to thurman vs Provo. Old saying...styles make fights. Chavez is a slick boxer Provo is hardcore pressure. Keith has not fought a guy like that yet. However ruslan has faired well against slick boxers. Herrera and bradley are very slick n many think Provo won both those fights. I'm not overly impressed by Chavez win not cuz he isn't a "name" but becuz he was untested and unproven agsinst top competition. You giving all this praise for Chavez fight is based on opinion and assumption. Provo is tested and proven. Both broner and maidana were "names" already and tested against high level of comp. so your point still alludes me there. Never said alvarado was better than thurman. I said he's better than anyone Thurman's fought. I don't think thurman has shown to be slicker than either bradley or Herrera. Yea brads got off in middle rounds n roach didn't like that ruslan took so many punches. You left out that Provo beat the breaks off him in beginning and end. Where is you're evidence that thurman takes a punch like bradley? I've seen evidence to the contrary actually. See Chavez, karass, Diaz for proof. So I've seen ruslan look monstrous against slicksters n I've seen thurman look confused under momentary pressure. Thurman throws big loaded powerful shots, ruslan throws short hard calculated shots. Inside game goes to ruslan. Thurman is faster on his feet so maybe he try to run like agsinst karass...but ruslan doesn't chase guys around the ring, he cuts the ring off. Herrera, bradley, n alvarado trump any 3 opponents Thurman's rver faced. Both are easy to hit. Both got power. Both have a chance. But I see more evidence for a ruslan win. Provo marks n cuts easy that sucks but hey, I ain't basing a prediction on a possible cut. You have yet to "drop" any "knowledge"

 

N did u really call me a bully? And use the phrase "tickle your fancy"? Neither of those statements help your cause. By the way the first insult hurled was your on someone's nuts comment. Curious how that makes me a bully.

 

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Provodnikov would make Thurman quit.

 

Remember our talk about paragraphs??

There are things you can take from the Chavez fight 1: He doesn't crumble when the going gets tough, 2: He's dangerous all throughout the fight, 3: He's got the stamina to keep working from round 1 to round 12... There's some boxing knowledge for ya, if u don't get it, it doesn't mean it's not knowledge, it just means you don't get it.

I already pointed out that Thurman fought Zaveck (apparently some boxing knowledge you don't have). Zaveck applied pressure the entire fight and went the distance, however did nothing to bother Thurman...

Bradley and Herrera are physically inferior to Thurman. They are both smaller, slower, and feather-fisted in comparison. That's something you don't need to know about boxing technique to be able to understand... You can just watch the TV and see it with ur own eyes.

Like I've basically explained to you over and over is that you can SEE what the fighter is capable of based entirely on his physical gifts and boxing technique... Chavez is clearly quite fast, clearly skilled and defensive, and his record indicates some power if not a lot of power... But like I said originally... We'll see about Chavez...

Thurman on the other hand...

Anyway, next time use paragraphs... That **** is just a blob...

Wait for Part 2

 

Provodnikov is a 40 pounder ....why not fight a true welter ? Roberto Garcia has been calling out Thurman for a while now

 

You still don't get the Maidana/Broner reference?? atsch

• BRONER WAS A NAME THAT EVERYONE KNEW.
• HE WAS UNDEFEATED AND HAD VICTORIES OVER OTHER "NAMES" LIKE PAULIE MALIGNAGGI, PONCE DE LEON, AND ANTONIO DEMARCO.
• HE WAS CONSIDERED THE NEXT FLOYD AND HAD A STYLE "SIMILAR" TO FLOYD'S

This left people with this impression that he was a skilled slick boxer, WHICH IF YOU ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT TO LOOK FOR FROM HIS PAST FIGHTS WAS NOT THE CASE.

If you knew the INS AND OUTS OF BOXING TECHNIQUE,

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and had proper ANALYTICAL SKILLS,

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you'd be able to see how "good" Broner really was, and what awaited him in the Maidana fight.

I really can't explain this any slower and easier for you... I guess it all boils down to there's more to boxing than who beat who and how, there's also styles, skill, and talent analysis... It's called the EYE TEST... WTF ELSE DO YOU WANT FROM ME?? :nut

I don't get how this has relevance to those 2 individuals fighting, which kinda proves my point about you. So ur not saying Alvarado is better than Thurman, but Rios is also better than anyone Thurman has fault... If that argument works for Provo, how come not for Alvarado?

Bradley, maybe not, but Herrera? He's at least damn close to it, and he's also got other attributes that help him win fights. Definitely not easy to hit, especially not for a guy like Provo.

Bradley also fought stupid in that fight atsch. You're probably of the opinion Provo MADE Bradley fight like that, but you're wrong... He did catch post-concussion Bradley against the ropes a few times but that was AFTER Bradley tried to fight him on the inside in round 1 and got hurt. Now is that not a fact? :huh

And you're also ignoring the bold... Bradley doesn't hit like Thurman, you think that could make a difference??

He got hurt against Karass, who's a lot taller and longer than Provo, within the first few seconds of the fight, and recovered immediately.
Chavez, who came into the fight with a reputation for power, never hurt Thurman in any meaningful way, and even still, those punches were delivered via shoulder roll counter punch... Show me Provo's shoulder roll counter punching technique and I'll concede to your argument... And Diaz?? I musta blinked and missed it...

look "monstrous" in a razor thin decision loss to Herrera, and against a concussed Bradley who didn't exactly fight very "slick" when he got hurt. Neither case compares to Thurman's abilities.

Are those 3 fights u named ur proof? Cause if so, that's not much of a leg to stand on.

With speed and distance in mind, and after befuddling his opponent with jabs.

:huh okay?

Why would Thurman fight Ruslan inside?

That's easy to say when ur walking down feather fisted fighters and Alvarado... What happens when the guy he's chasing around is clocking him with powerful combinations to the head and body?

But how do they compare to Thurman?

If you have speed, length, or boxing skill... Thurman doesn't go unscathed in fights, but he's a lot harder to hit than Provo. Don't act like their defense is equal.

Knowledge dropped... Ur evidence is fault AND I ACTUALLY EXPLAINED WHY... So have it at

 

My cause?? And what exactly is my cause??

That was in the middle of your very first response to me, I'm sure you remember. So I told you to get off Provo's nuts, and you through a fit like a baby.

atsch You like to judge grammar, but you clearly have a comprehension problem...

I didn't say you were a bully, I said you wanted to ACT like an INTERNET bully (which is neither tough nor an impressive thing to act like despite what you may have thought)... Okay? I was basically calling you a keyboard warrior... Or as they are known in the real world, a cowardly ******... But it was the past, let's move on

 

Haha. Ok. The 3 shits u took from Chavez are good attributes but are not specific advantages over Provo. And we are yet to see if he crumbles when going gets tough. Chavez is not a reliable measuring stick. Add to it that Provo has those same attributes and he's shown them against much more proven opposition than has thurman. No knowledge points for you there. I know you ain't throwing jan zaveck out there as if he's remotely in a class with Provo. I addressed him earlier. See: zavick sucks. Herrera n brads maybe not got Keith's power but he ain't got their speed and defense either does he? Not their chins either. You suck at this bro. N maybe you should remember our talk about paragraphs n how I shut u down n u threw a whiny hissy fit n wished my family dead. Fukkin little b.itch.

 

horrible fight for Thurman, at least at this point let him build his career up a little then go to war with someone like prov

 

Lightsout jack you can type the broner maidana **** as slowly and boldly as u want it still has no point regarding a theoretical fight between ruslan n thurman. Please type it slower n bolder and throw in what the point is n how it relates to this discussion?

 

Your obviously of the opinion that thurman doesn't have to fight on the inside if he doesn't want to. Hey, maybe with al haymon on his side he can get that put in the contract. I myself feel that sometimes the other guy in the ring has a say in things to. I've never seen ruslan kept on the outside for very long. See my previous posts for further reading on the subject.

 

Hey lightsout maybe I did bully you a bit. Sorry buddy. Please go back n look at who brought up **** outside of boxing. See: placement of a p.s, paragraphs...etc.