I dont see pacquaio's name in the OP and i mentioned him because a GBP fighter called out a top rank fighter.................
Fighters like him now. They won't be singing the same song if top rank goes under n gbp no longer has to compete with anyone n can wring the life out its fighters without worry of them leaving. Where would they go. This has all been a push to kill hbo/top rank. That's why showtime is willing to lose money on their sports programming right now. If you kill top tank u kill hbo n then you can do whatever u want. You think a monopoly is a good thing for fighters your dead wrong.
apparently you havent been watching boxing very long. thats a pie in the sky dream. you will get what they give you 90% of the time, not what the fans want to see
i dont disagree with you in theory...yes a monopoly could be bad but i dont think it was an agenda of schaefer or golden boy...i dont think schaefer came out and said "lets kill top rank we can take them out...i know how" schaefer has done an awesome job with that company what has driven this is bob arum and his jerking around in regards to the floyd/pac fight....arum has been all over the place in his reasonings/excuses....not only that he has gone out of his way to say things about schaefer....and usually schaefer responds only to something arum has said....schaefer has said hes tried to work with bob...and has wanted to.....and its just impossible with the way he operates....schaefer was quoted as saying something like "he thrives off of this stuff....feuding...just like with don king"......take a look at how bob proposed donaire/mares to them..... if something a top rank burial comes....bob did it to himself by acting the way he does...it was not some contrived plan from way back by schaefer to bury him....schaefer doesnt wanna do business with them because of the bs that comes out of arums mouth constantly.....look at how he goes out of his way to trash floyds fight? i honestly think if oscar tries to can schaefer hell be digging his own grave from a promotional standpoint....schaefer will get together with haymon and floyd and they will most likely be very succcessful......schaefer has built that company to where it is.....i dunno who oscar thinks is gonna come in and run that company for him
Schaefer makes gbp money yea, but how can he be a great CEO who makes everyone money but doesn't push for fighters to sign gbp contracts? Cuz of al haymon. These guys all got contracts with al. All signs point to an agenda. Al is either playing dick like a whistle or dick is in on it. N I don't think dick lets himself get played easily
Great fkin point :good Bernard Hopkins also didn't duck any challenges and he holds a stake in the company. It's a shame he is siding with Schaefer :bart
It matters who the fighters thank, because that is an indication of who they have the relationship with. Those not mentioned are those who are out of mind. Believe it or not, majority shareholder don't mean squat is a privately owned company. If Schaefer leaves and takes the best fighters those shares would be worth zero. It's obvious that Schaefer has all the relationships while Oscar has just been playing dress up, getting drunk and doing lines.
If Schaefer leaves, he won't go with Mayweather but will more likely work closer with Al, and I'd imagine BHOP would be a part of the them. GBP is privately owned so it is very difficult to assess exactly how much shares are worth at a given period in time.
Oscar is an idiot and Schaefer is a slimy snake. Oscar put himself in this position with his immaturity. His drugs, alcohol and infidelity painted him as an incompetent fool and lost the respect of his peers like Hopkins and his fighters. The guy is just irresponsible. He has no one to blame but himself. On the other hand, you have a Schaefer, a guy who no doubt has been dealing behind Oscar's back, allowing Haymon fighters to fight under the Golden Boy banner without contracts. In a sense, he's been weakening Golden Boy in favor of his inevitable leave and start of a promotional company. I'm sure he's been planning it for a couple years now. What an odd couple. Oscar and Schaefer will split and it could happen suddenly. It could happen tomorrow and I won't be surprised, but they will split. It's inevitable. Oscar will suffer the most of the fallout because he has the most to lose. In fact, he's the one with the most to lose.
Bottom line is; 1. Oscar's value to the company is his good name, Golden Boy Promotions 2. Oscar failed to protect his good name, boozing/drugging and allowing a Russia planted stripper to take and leak photos of him drunk/coked up and in drag to the press. This mistake had serious consenquences to the GBP brand. It caused serious devaluation to the GBP brand name and lost respect for ODLH himself. 3. Oscar failed to take an involvement in the company and it's fighters. Seems he has less of a relationship with GBP fighters than schaefer or Hopkins. 4. GBP number 1 cash crop is Mayweater Promotions and Floyd Mayweather. ODLH has a bad relationship with Mayweather. Rather than attempting to repiar his personal relationship with Arm, ODLH would be better served in repairing and enforcing his personal and professional relationship with Mayweather Promotions, Floyd, Roger and Mayweather Sr., the present bread and butter of his company.
the thing is, oscar doesn't have control of schaeffer and schaeffer and haymon has now taken control of gbp. ...and according to articles, main investor aeg group is not happy with low returns. if oscar wants his company back, he has to get rid of schaeffer now. if he wants to be just the figurehead, don't do anything. ...but make no mistake, if floyd get's a promotional licence, schaeffer would leave and gbp/oscar would be at haymon's mercy with so many of his fighters with their managerial rights signed over to him.
Speaking of not mixing personal and business, this whole rift reeks of a personal nature. No purely business-minded person ever permanently stops doing business with someone unless they have been royally, intentionally screwed out of money, but contracts largely prevent getting screwed (and if you do you have legal recourse) so I doubt GBP was ever screwed out of money. Read Schafer's comments over time about not working with Arum, most are personal in nature and a lot are pure rhetoric, so I think Schafer probably should take your advice, as well and quit mixing personal feelings with business. Schafer has been a good CEO, but businessmen shouldn't let emotions and personal feelings influence business decisions, and in this situation I believe he has. There is a ton of money to be made between GBP and TR, and tons of incredible fights, great for the fans and for the sport, that aren't happening because Schafer is unwilling to even come to the table and talk money. Make no mistake, this beef is in large part personal and as a businessman I disagree with bringing emotions and personal biases into the boardroom. It hurts your stakeholders (boxers, fans, owners, employees), financially and otherwise, and rarely results in optimal business decisions.
i hear what you are saying....at the same time...if you dont need to do business with TR and can still do good business for yourself...why bother if you dont need to mess with someone whom you feel has been disrespectful to you and your company.....disrespect is something that isnt taken lightly by many people.... when they were negotiating in 2009/2010...arum basically jerked their chain the whole time....he was never serious and had the clottey fight in his back pocket the whole time...meanwhile floyd was serious about the fight....so serious that when pac walked to fight clottey...floyd had to have al haymon make andre berto step aside so floyd could fight shane(berto/shane was signed at the time)...because floyd had no other real viable fight out there as he was banking on fighting pac..... arum then ran his mouth wiht a bunch of lies....a phony countdown clock for floyd to sign some deal that never existed........there was the donaire/mares talks where arum basically tried to strongarm schaefer......arum has run his mouth time and time again with nonsense...insulting people....then hes running bs excuses about cuts, stadiums, licenses, not knowing who to call....then one day hes saying hes waiting for them to call him and on the same day announcing pac/bradley 2....just so much bs i cant even type it all.... schaefer basically told him you wanna do the floyd fight? ok well use the same model you gave us for a donaire/mares fight....who do you think you are? schaefer has said he has wanted to do business and tried to do business with bob...its just impossible if you can do well and survive without doing business with someone who has disrespected you....you do that if you wish....if golden boy needed top rank to survive and do well then it would be a different story botton line is ...arum has been around for 40 something years in the business...and hes still here...and not long ago his company was still top dog....but things have changed...golden boy has been right with him and is prob now pulled ahead.......and his former protege, floyd, left him and became a mega star and golden boy ally....and he cant stand it....hed rather die than let manny lose to him with manny under his control....thats how i think it really started.....bob likes yes boys who rely on people like him....he liked to the be the feeding hand...he doesnt like fighters taking control of their own situation and being successful....goes against everything hes done for 40 years....hopefully soon manny will smarten up a little and do things his way...with TR's help...because he could have bob at his mercy soon...bob needs him