The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. GrenadeHand

    GrenadeHand Active Member Full Member

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    No viable opponents my ass
     
  2. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thurman
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    Are you sure about that :huh
     
  3. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Random celebrities with no connection whatsoever to the sport of boxing have extremely valid opinions and need to be taken very seriously.

    Aside from Trump, another such example being rapper "Nelly's" eloquent and poignant argument in favour of Floyd Mayweather being the GOAT:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAHKzGZbSjQ

    Powerful stuff. He made a very salient point about Mayweather being the only undefeated boxer in history apart from Rocky Marciano. Very well said Nelly. Mayweather and Marciano: the only two undefeated boxers ever.

    Another valid voice being "House" star "Omar Epps":

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1axXQEG-LwY

    He makes a powerful and relevant argument for Mayweather knocking Manny Pacquiao out in 6 rounds despite only having 3 career knock outs at the weight. His key point for this is that Pacquiao is stylistically reminiscent of Diego Corrales and Aruto Gatti. Great point Omar. Manny Pacquiao and Aruto Gatti are indeed virtual doppelgängers in term of boxing style and efficiency. Floyd TKO6.
     
  4. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Trump is a ****in IDIOT.
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He did run out of gas which is why Mayweather adjusted. You can clearly see that Maidana stopped pressing the attacks as he usually did. Even when he had Mayweather on the ropes, he stopped throwing as many punches as he used to and was easily opened up for counters.
     
  6. EJDiaZ

    EJDiaZ Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac wins in a close UD (2014)
    real talk!
     
  7. TowersOfIce

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    That' s not in doubt but even a stopped clock is correct sometimes. The judges cards 117-111 and 116-112 were a joke as Paulie pointed out on Showtime.
     
  9. theDUD3

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    love omar epps but whoever says that pac is stylistically reminiscent to corrales and gatti is fkn stupid. lol!
     
  10. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There should be a standard specification for gloves. There is no need for so many variations.
     
  11. macalpinerules

    macalpinerules Active Member Full Member

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    I'm tired of Mayweather referencing his 40+ undefeated fight streak as a reason for him being the greatest. Boxing has many fighters who were undefeated for 40+ fights while arguably fighting better comp.

    Felix Trinidad 40-0. The version of De La Hoya that Felix fought craps on any fighter on Floyd's resume. The version of Vargas Trinidad fought also craps on anyone on Floyd's resume.

    Roy Jones was essentially 50-0. The Version of Toney that Jones fought is better than anyone on Floyd's resume. And the version of Hopkins that Jones fought is better than anyone on Floyd's resume.

    Pernell Whitaker was essentially 42-0. The Version of Chavez that Whitaker fought is better than anyone on Floyd's resume. Whitaker arguably beat a better version of De La Hoya. And his win over Nelson might be better than any win Floyd has.

    Julio Cesar Chavez was 87-0 with wins over Laporte, Rosario, Ramirez and Taylor.

    Joe Calzaghe retired at 46-0. His win over Hopkins is better than any win on Floyd's resume. And his win over Kessler is equal to any win on Floyd's resume except for Canelo and Castillo.

    Ricardo Lopez ran his record to 47-0

    Marco Antonio Barrera ran his record to 43-0 while defending the super bantamweight title 8 times.

    Chris John ran his record to 42-0 with a win over Marquez being better than any win on Floyd resume. (John fought Marquez at his natural weight)

    Erik Morales ran his record to 41-0 with his win over Barrera being better than any win on Floyd's resume.

    Larry Holmes Ran his record to 48-0

    James Toney Was 44-0 before losing to Jones. His win over McCallum is a better than any win in Floyd's resume. And his win over Michael Nunn is arguably at least equal to any win on Floyd's resume.

    Now I'm not saying Floyd isn't a great fighter. I'm just pointing to the fact that referencing his undefeated record as evidence of him being the greatest doesn't make sense because boxing is littered with fighters whohave compiled 40+ undefeated records while fighting better fighters than Floyd has in some cases. I think when Floyd loses it will be a good thing because we will finally be able to judge him by the quality of his resume and not simply because he's won all his fights.

    Let me reiterate for clarity: I'm not saying Mayweather is not a great. He's an ATG to be exact. What I'm arguing is the meaning of his undefeated record. Floyd wants us to believe that his undefeated record means that he is the TBE (The Best Ever). I tend to disagree. The only thing that Mayweather could use in defense of his TBE argument is the quality of his resume. And at the moment his resume does not support the claim of TBE.
     
  12. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The problem with this theory.... Floyd looked panicked and shell shocked. Maybe Floyd is an excellent actor, but I doubt it. He still seemed shaken up and embarrassed after the fight.
    My theory is that Floyd has never been anywhere near as good as he has been made out to be. Canelo was a great victory but that was a styles thing and Canelo holding something back. After that there is... Corrales? Floyd is very lucky not to be 43-3. Great fighter but nowhere near unbeatable. Cherry picked and marketed himself into something he's not.
     
  13. Barrera

    Barrera Defeated Boxing_master Full Member

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    i love how both *****s and *******s will bring up ANYONES NAME to support there claims.

    donald trump ? come the **** on
     
  14. ValentinePrince

    ValentinePrince Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Being undefeated has never been a big deal in the boxing world. If you expose yourself frequently enough to the top competition an eventual loss is an inevitability. This is true of all fighters. What matters is not the win % but who your getting these wins over and the circumstances in which they're achieved.
     
  15. yingyang

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    *****s making excuses for Floyd lack luster performance. LOL

    Cherry pick gone wrong. hahaha

    Maidana made Floyd his *****. LOL
     
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