The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

A boxing forum appears to be the only place Floyd and Pac will ever fight. The fight has been done to death, but after seeing Maidana causing Floyd more problems than expected, does it change your views on his theoretical matchup with Pac.

1. Floyd doesnt have stopping power these days. He landed some flush rights that slowed Marcos but didnt look like really hurting him. Maybe it was the pillow sized gloves but without that power does he dissuade Pac enough?

2. Southpaw is a style that Floyd has generally avoided. That might be because Paul Williams was all wrong for Floyd in other ways, but it also continues my belief that Floyd avoids his kryptonite in his matchmaking, look at Margarito as an example. Thus, Pac as a volume power punching southpaw, must have a stylistic advantage versus other adversaries of Floyd's.

3. Although Pac has clearly aged, I think the Floyd that fought Maidana was not near prime.

thoughts?

 

I'm a Pacquiao fan but how can you gloss over the fact that he struggled 3X vs Marquez then got KO? And not fighting each other should count against both of them.

 

PAC destroys him with fast combinations.

Mayweather is so caught up in his own defense and not getting hit, if you have a fast jab or straight you can occupy him

 

no featherfisted is gonna beat pac. never.

 

pac could have success with some combinations....and probably would early....at least they would be "crowd" pleasing even if they didnt land ****.....but floyd would still be able to able to start timing him.....and would prob do exactly what we thought hed do.......pac aint big or strong enough to do what chino did imo.....floyd would start timing him with the lead rights...and counters.....the sweet right over the jab being pulled back....all the same **** you see him do in a boxing match....floyd would prob still be able to control distance against pac

i dont particularly have a problem with what maidana did....but i dont like it either...i dont mind cutting off the ring....stalking....pressuring constantly......but do it like a man in a prizefight....not like a street thug trying to bully and foul your way into breaking floyd mentally

pac/floyd more likely ends up being a boxing match....not a smothering/dirty bully job maidana pulled.....and floyd wins boxing matches(and even the latter)....i could see pac looking good and admirable in defeat....just dont think he wins

 

Present Day Floyd beats Pac 117-111.

I could see Pac taking the first few rounds. But then Floyd would adjust. People have success against Floyd when they impose their size. Cotto came in 165 and so Did Chino.

They were both big guys.

Pac doesn't have any of those advantages over Floyd and Floyd's speed is still there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUGoOuw3o0c

It's a fight that's nearly impossible to decide though (unless it happens) Because it's a complete contrast of styles.

On one hand, for all we know. Pac could really overwhelm Floyd, and his speed would be too much and his left hand would land a lot.

On the other hand. Floyd is the greatest defensive fighter in the world, possibly of all time. And hiis accuracy is second to none. His right hand could be target practice.

It's one of the two. I don't really know. My money would be on Floyd. They are pretty much the same size, Floyd has a longer reach and is more skilled. I got him being able to control distance from the outside and making Pac pay when he feints and comes in.

Who knows though

 

Does manny have the strength off narcos, how many southpaws has floyd beaten? MANNY, HAS NO JAB, BODYPUNCHES, VULNERABLE TO UPPERCUTS, COUNTERPUNCHERS, CANNOT CUT THE RING RIGHT?

 

Try not be bias. Let's not turn this into a Floyd supporters vs Manny fans thread. Call it what it is. What each of them bring to the table, and give a complete analysis.

 

Maidana and Pacquiao don't have the same style the only similarities are that they both throw a lot of punches between the three fighters you mentioned none of what they do is what Maidana did to be successful. None possess the inside game which Maidana implemented when he got in close, none have a jab which Maidana used as a ranger finder as well as an ackward punch to keep him off balance.
Pacquiao specifically doesn't have the weight advantage to push Mayweather back.

Every fighter has trouble with southpaws but if you compare top fighters resume Mayweather has fought/beat more southpaws than almost every fighter in the top 10, so saying that southpaws are a matchup problem or avioded seems false, Margarito and Williams fight not happening to me had more to do with those two never really accomplishing anything to make them the best choice for a fight, neither are HOFer nor are they really great fighters so I'm really indifferent about those fights
Pacquiao is a great fighter and that fight should have happen but both sides have shown there difficult to work with

 

show me pedjr's defense against southpaws.

if you need a maidana to show how pac beats up pedjr, then you dont really know ****.

all this **** about pedjr figuring out his opponents, it;s all bull.
they just gassed.

pac aint gassing, and aint slow.

no featherfisted aint gonna beat pac. never.

 

PAC does not fight in a rythem he changes it mayweather finds a rythem of a fighter picks up on it then starts timing him with PAC he won't get that plus the south paw style, 1000 punches a fight pacs gonna be fired up

 

Just wow.

 

Despite the erroneous disrespect that the ***** masses issue on the real "greatest of this era", this statement is true.

Even in recent performances - W clear Bradley is far greater than W controversial/close Maidana.

Every fighter has stylistic things that trouble them. For Mayweather it's pressure, awkwardness, speed, southpaw and high activity. What he excells against are lower output guys not quick on the feet, this even includes great versions of that description with amazing timing like JMM.

For Pac what troubles him is "offensive counter punching". Someone with elite timing that can go toe to toe with him and keep him honest with sharp counter bombs. JMM fits that to the T.

Floyd beating JMM easily was a hand picked style, even though the guy is a great fighter, for Floyd to look good against. It's no different than Pac picking someone like Maidana to come right at him and run into his left hand and get KTFO.

If Pac/Maidana happened next, you'd see the media and the ***** masses(who have hopefully learned that their fighter is beatable finally, like everyone is)discredit it as Pac having the style advantage against that common opponent with Mayweather. Yet nobody will mention the style advantage over JMM.

All other common opponents saw Pacquaio beating those guys far more impressively and he's the much smaller guy that came up from a great Featherweight class and prior to that Bantam and Fly.

Resume's aren't comparable - Pac's is ATG and Floyd's is borderline HOF.

Stop calling Mayweather the p4p no. 1 and stop calling him the best of this era.

This age excuse for the Maidana performance holds no weight when he's just come off of what many consider career best showings and what most people were saying as him being a far better defensive fighter with more veteran tricks to supplement fading athletic prowess.

He simply hasn't faced someone hungry and not falling into line. The types of fighters he avoided in fact.

Now you have calls for a Khan fight, a Maidana rematch and other seemingly second tier opposition with still no fight against Manny, his main era rival and still no fights against young hungry dangerous guys in what is becoming a very hot division - like in 2008 where he took a year and a half vacation.

You *****'s and other people that were blinded by this smoke screen need to wake up.

 

Pacquaio has reclaimed the p4p king spot

 

*****'s are the earths most ignorant people, & I have to agree with this post 100%.