Who is the biggest person Rocky Marciano fought?

i think this is undoubtedly correct.

 

I am certainly NOT a fan of Marciano, but one of the qualities of a great fighter is when they are hit they hit back. Unfortunately for you and other Tyson fanatics your boy just stopped fighting when he got hit. That is the reason he didn't only get beaten, but got " beaten up " by his opponents before he got KTFO.

Marciano, for all his limitations, ( and I believe overratedness ) could NEVER be accused of that.

 

Nah. I don't really think that. I was just showing him how ridiculous he looked by making the same kind of arguments about Marciano getting decked by Walcott, Moore, etc.. Tyson was a great champion, but like all great champions we can always play that card.

 

He was one handed but he was no mummy.

Can we really say he was just showing up for paycheck. Louis needed money but the man had pride, he was aming for another shot at the title and was willing to go through Marciano to get it, this post seems pretty disrespectful.

 

True. His willingness to fight some 9 guys in 1951 alone, a few of whom were contenders, showed that he was trying to get back on top. Had he gotten a third fight with Walcott, he very likely would have lost, but given that they were both at the end of their careers and Walcott not having Marciano's power, it might have proved to be a competitive fight even then.

 

Of course it is, and I don't dispute that. I believe it is a factor without a doubt, but another factor is the type of training the old timers did compared to the modern super heavyweights. It was much more endurance based with little or no weight training. If Ali, Holmes or Liston were fighting today they would likely be 20 lbs heavier and ripped to ****; whether that would make them better fighters or not I don't know.

 

i do not understand how you cannot be a fan of Rocky's.at 5'9" and 189lb(or less) he fought and beat the best of that time.he was always in shape,had a great chin,great power,took all the opponents could give and kept coming forward to knock their ass out! what the hell is pro boxing about? jab,hold and run? p.s. James Patrick Connolly:6'5" 210lb lasted 1 round!

 

The only thing is Joe Louis had that growth on his left shoulder, his jabbing hand.

Louis decked Omelio Agromante, a tough, fast fighter, in their second fight with a right hand during his comeback. Joe was punching good with his right hand in 1951.

I think Marciano prevented Louis from using the right. Joe was prety selective with his right hand by then anyway but Rocky so smothered him that Louis really could not find room to use it. Louis tried about 4 right hands against Rocky in the first round but it was the defensive, step away jab that gave Louis the most room later in the fight.

 

Ali may have been huge but in a small ring(or street fight), i would pick the 5'10" Frazier any day to kick his butt.

 

Try telling that to Omilio Agramante! The 1951 fight is on YouTube. Louis decked Agramante hard with the right hand and hurt him often just months before the Marciano fight.

 

The evidence is in the film with Marciano. The evidence is in the Bivens next day reports which state Louis never got off the right against a fighter who was in constant retreat mode.

I think Heinz stated it well in the build up to the Walcott fight...

"The Marciano faction (Rocky's real name is Marchegiano) points to late 1951 knockout of Joe Louis in the eight round as the highlight of the Brockton Blockbuster's career... This kayo victory isn't all it is supposed to be, however, because the Brown Bomber no longer could bomb at the time."

 

First things first.

Of course I admire what Rocky did in his own era, against the kind of opponents he faced and defeated, at that stages of their respective careers.

The problem I have is when his more " obsessive " fans go totally overboard, and claim he would have beaten everyone from Liston, through to the Brothers Kllitchko.

That is pure, unadulterated NONSENSE.

 

It is a pity the Bivins fight was not filmed. I imagine Louis still used his right hand since he used his right 4 times in the first round against Marciano alone. Heinz saying the bomber "no longer could bomb at the time" is more of a nod to the phenomenal champion Louis was at his absolute zenith. Even so that same 1951 Joe Louis sure "bombed out" Savold and decked Agramante that year. Not vintage performances by a long chalk but respectable results all the same. Joe earned his ranking with good wins. He was not living on his name at all. Louis was beating rated men.

 

Those love taps on the inside bear little resemblance to the crackling right hands he threw even a few years before. He looks underwater, glacially slow. It's just sad. Anyone trying to proffer the argument that Louis was anything but a shell in this fight is either intellectually deficient or plain dishonest.

 

He was great in his era. Wins over a past prime but still tough Louis, Walcott x2, a past prime but well prepared Charles x2, and Moore. Going 6-0 (5) vs. these greats is impressive. Only down twice in 49 fights, got up to stop his opponent both times. What more could he really have done.

Under 6' under 190 Lbs. He did very well with what he had. He'd beat most, if not all... who were similar in weight. A true P4P great in my opinion.

Vs.

Patterson? I like Marciano by KO

Johansson? Marciano by KO

Liston? I could see him winning, maybe even by late round TKO

Ali? Ali by decision in a great fight

Frazier? Wow, dream fight right here! Who knows what would happen?

Foreman? I think he'd last longer than Frazier did, but I think Foreman does stop him eventually.

Holmes? Holmes by decision in a very tough fight.

Tyson? Another dream fight like the fight with Frazier, I'm not picking.

Holyfield? Wow! I really do think Marciano would give him a good fight, but I think Holyfield would win.

Bowe, Lewis, V. and W. Klitschko? I think these four had the right combination of size, skill, power, and durability (especially Vitali and Bowe) to be too much to handle for Marciano. It would take more than just being big to beat Marciano... and these guys had it.