The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He broke Bradley's ankle twice due to his footwork. Never seen anyone twist and turn an opponent as good as Pacquiao does. Was watching Hatton fight, he was to Hattons right, lands a 4 punch combination and suddenly twists and ends up to Hattons left creating a new angle entirely.

    Creating angles like that takes more than footspeed, its a lot of balance and foot placing.

    Emmanuel Steward who saw Pacquiao front row and is a legendary trainer said Pacquiao has amazing footwork, how can you refute that? lol.
     
  2. Paperagent

    Paperagent Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao's footwork>>>>>>>>>Mayweather's footwork
     
  3. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    His foot placement helped him get KTFO against Marquez and his balance isn't great. His feet are fast and he bounces in and out a lot, but he also puts himself out of position a lot. You wanna see excellent footwork... Watch Guillermo Rigondeaux. That guy's feet are almost always spaced perfectly, he's almost never off balance and he's almost always in the perfect position to avoid and land shots. Pacquiao can't control distance anywhere near as well as Rigondeaux, and that has everything to do with his feet.
     
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  5. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, because only poor footwork gets you ktfo in boxing.

    What a moron. Trying way too hard to be a pseudo-expert.

    Pacquiao controls the distance perfectly, he controls the range. He just happens to be an offensive fighter so he's the one trying to close the gap often, which can expose him. Rigo on the other hand is always on the backfoot, when his opponent takes a step forward, he takes a step back, its a lot less riskier. He's reacting to his opponents foot movement, Pac meanwhile is the one making moves with his feet which his opponents can react to, again being a riskier style.

    So now are you gonna tell me that Emmanuel Steward does not know what he's talking about when it comes to the technicalities of footwork? Cos he obviously disagrees with you.
     
  6. MetalLicker

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    If people need proof that Manny can move better defensively than Floyd, look no further than the Cotto fights.

    Manny stayed on the ropes a few times, but it was by choice and he circled out very quickly. Floyd on the other hand just gets trapped on the ropes.

    They both have fast feet, but Pac rarely allows himself to be cornered. And you won't find many videos of him getting cornered because he doesn't allow opponents to corner him. Floyd getting backed into the ropes and staying there seems to be a habit for him now.
     
  7. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    His foot placement got him tripped right into a straight right hand that put him to sleep. Nobody said "only poor footwork gets you KTFO in boxing", you ****ing clown, but his poor footwork sure did help it along in this case, didn't it? :yep

    Rigondeaux doesn't bounce around the ring like a ****ing chimpanzee, but like I said, his balance, foot placement and control of distance put Mongoloid Manny's to shame. You'll never see him pull straight back with his front foot first or trip over a dude's front foot and fall chin first into his fist. Mayweather doesn't do that **** either.

    Steward also marveled at Rigondeaux's perfect foot placement and amazing ability to control distance. Are YOU gonna tell ME that he doesn't know what he's talking about?
     
  8. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Floyd can afford to stay on the ropes a lot more than Manny can because he doesn't need to be out of range to make you miss, and even if you do land, Floyd has a better chin.
     
  9. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course Manny won't go on the ropes. Have you watched his last several fights? He's a borring runner! He ran from Bradley and Rios. He doesn't go toe-to-toe like Floyd.

    Manny has been KOd 3X! Why are you guys comparing him to Mayweather? Manny is A- fighter. He got KOd by 40 year old, who was schooled by Floyd. FACTS are FACTS! I doubt Pacquiao can get past 6 rounds against Maidana.
     
  10. Imperial1

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    Is that the guy who had to jump up 2 weight classes to fight Floyd ?

    Or is it the little guy that Floyd outweighed by who knows how much on figh night ?

    Or the guy who had the stones to face Manny 4 times with out any excuses or diva like demands ?

    Is that the guy your referring to ? Yeah your right no need to compare Manny the warrior to Floyd the cherry picker !
     
  11. Florez

    Florez Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You make a great comedian.
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Pacman moves and fights at a hellish pace, Floyd for the most part tries to slow you down to his. Pacman very unorthodox and punches from angles because of his amazing foot speed. Doesn't have to rely on much waist or head movement as Floyd. Floyd tries his best to make it a boxing match while Pacman does the opposite and tries to make it a fight. They couldn't be more different.
     
  13. Impulse_0

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    When Floyd commented on Pacquiao and Bradley's fight he said they looked fatigued. The thing is Mayweather hasn't moved like that in years. He also has not fought anyone who moves half as well as Pacquiao since forever.

    He barely moves at all. No wonder he never gets tired.
     
  14. dangerousity

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    Pac went on the attack to land his combination. His feet was where he wanted them to be, that wasnt due to poor footwork. That was merely JMM having fought Pac 3 times prior, predicting Pac's movements and placed himself exactly in position to counter. That happens. You can throw a perfect textbook right hand, which can also be countered resulting in you getting ktfo, are you then gonna tell me its because you have a poor fight hand? :patsch

    Dumb logic. I never said Rigo had bad footwork or that its not amazing. The guy is a 2 time gold medalist, his footwork is pretty much PERFECT for his style of fighting which is a counterpuncher on the backfoot, therefore Steward does know what hes talking about, and he obviously also knows what he's talking about with regards to Pac's footwork. Rigo doesn't need to bounce on his feet because its not his style, he fights on the backfoot, he doesn't need to bounce quickly inside, throw a 5 punch combination and gtfo. Footwork is largely due to style, notice Tysons footwork for his style, Chavez, Rigo and Pac. All of them have different styles, different footworks to suit their style and they all have great footwork as it compliments their style perfectly. If Pac cannot bounce inside, create angles to throw fast combinations then gtfo of an angle, he wont be half as successful, therefore a huge part of his success is his footwork complimenting his style. Likewise the same can be said for guys like Chavez who cut off the ring perfectly.

    Try to understand that boxing footwork and boxing in general goes further than the basics they taught you at your first boxercise class.
     
  15. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac threw over 800 punches against Rios. Floyd throws like 400 whilst on the backfoot. Who's running?
     
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