Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

Yes, marciano has the advantage in experience, durability, stamina and defence and 1973 foreman has a size advantage no bigger than 1951 Joe Louis...marciano has absolutly no chance hereatsch

 

Yeah well don't jest with me.


I know where you live.:nono

 

It is merely your opinion that Foreman shoving people back was fouling. Obviously plenty of referees didn't agree with you.

Being side on when out of range isn't the point. He has to square himself up somewhat when in range to throw his right hand. That is when Foreman shoves him back to within his own range, and nails him.

As someone said, a brutal mismatch with Marciano going the same way as a lot of George's other victims. KO 2.

 

No you will find it is an actual genuine foul. Amir Khan has had points taken off for pushing and lots of other fighters.

No Arthur mercante did warn George for it. He often got warned because it is a foul. Foreman did not beat Frazier because he pushed him did he?

Foreman beat Frazier for a lot of reasons. The first being Joe Frazier was not Rocky Marciano. The main reasons George beat Frazier was that Joe had lost 50% of his defence, was not in good shape and George got so many free shots on a defenceless target. After TFOTC there was a range where Joe would throw nothing because he could no longer land on the way in. George timed Frazier, he worked him out, there was no threat. He was going to land at will and he punched too hard. Pushing Joe had nothing to do with it.

Again this is a foul. It's like saying it's ok to knee a guy in the balls.

unlike 8 men who all went the distance with George? Could it be true thst gregario peralta, Levi forte, Roberto davila must have been made of far sterner stuff than one of the greatest heavyweights of all time? How did they all manage to survive more than 2rounds of being shoved into knockout range?

Why 2 rounds anyway? Even 5'9" 12 times knocked out scrap iron johnson lasted 7 rounds with George! Johnson was stopped on a cut.

 

Jesus… Stop with this 1951 Joe Louis being a viable large heavyweight. He was a borderline cripple desperately in need of cash.

At the same age, Foreman was 244 pounds. So, use that as your comparative.

 

How many borderline cripples look as good? Even if he was no longer great Louis still only weighed as much for Marciano as he did against Walcott in 1948, he was winning fights against ranked fighters, knocking them out. Jimmy Bivins was an ATG, Joe outboxed him as well as top liners Bob baker and Clarence Henry did either side of that result. 51' Louis, if not great, was still as capable as a lot of good contenders in any era.

And if George used 1950s training methods instead of pulling trucks I doubt he would have weighed so high as 244 after a ten year lay off from boxing. George was ten pounds lighter for quawi proving there was no need to weigh so high in the first place.

The point remains, that both Joe Louis and George Foreman fought as world rated fighters at 218lb. Even if it was at opposite ends of their careers. Was Ali too small to fight Ken Norton because he weighed 18lb less as a youngster?

 

foreman knocks out marciano

 

Bottom line.:good

 

What can Marciano do?

He can fight his own fight for one thing.

The man who never lost, is somehow presumed to loose!

 

Joe Mesi never lost either ... :rofl

 

LOL.. You are a welcomed guest in my home whenever you choose :good

 

Bert Sugar on rocky marciano:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjnmHq21lh4

http://youtu.be/PjnmHq21lh4

 

I really like your input, but is English your first language?

I don't mean to disrespect. I've just noticed some anomalies in your spelling and syntax.

 

I bet your not remotely interested in how often boxers are penalised for pushing in the 21st century because you are not remotely interested enough to know it was a foul as long as fights have been filmed.

My point is the ref did warn Foreman ..although not enough in my book. Here is an exact quote from Arthur Mercante about the time he refereed Foreman when he pushed Boone kirkman.

"I bawled him out good and threatened to disqualify him if he tried anything like that again" -Arthur mercante.

From the same chapter Mercante talks of warning Foreman for pushing Frazier.

"Foreman began to violently shove Frazier to the ropes. It was exactly what I was on the alert for. I jumped between them and issued a strong warning to Foreman" -Arthur mercante

those guys were all knocked out and stopped by others. Hey if you can come up with round two as the round that a man who NEVER got knocked out gets flattened by Foreman why can't you expect more from Foreman against guys who were knocked out loads of times?

I tell you what I am suggesting I am suggesting you have never ever seen scrap iron johnson fight! yet without that research you have the neck to suggest he tried to avoid getting knocked out simply because he lasted longer than Frazier a man you are unable to separate from Marciano. Well I have seen a lot of scrap iron and the reason he posed problems for Foreman was because he could still do what Frazier was unable to do after the Ali fight and that was to land punches on the way in rather than having to walk up and feel his way in. At 5'9" Johnson had no real power but for a journeyman he was tough, he had a right hand and would crowd his way inside the arcs of taller fighters blows to land his own. This offence at a range that was missing from Fraziers arsenal discouraged quite the number of free shots and openings Frazier would hand to Foreman in Jamaica.

I can explain how marciano can beat Foreman in the same way Arthur mercante who refereed both Foreman and Frazier before their fights

" I refereed two of foremans fights, I knew he was immensely strong and a very powerful puncher indeed. His problem was that he threw his punches in wide arcs, often telegraphing their arrival and leaving himself WIDE OPEN for counters. That could be fatal against a left hooker like frazier who could get inside those wide arcs and hammer home his big artillery. But there were troubling indications, such as fraziers inactivity. In the two years since he defeated Ali, Joe had defended his title only twice, both times against journymen opponents, who actually rocked him. Clearly, Frazier had not been showing the same firepower that had pulverized Jimmy Ellis and bob foster, and had sent Ali crashing to the canvas." - Arthur Mercante.