Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

Very gracious.:good

 

Foreman would have made a mess of Marciano.

 

You are arbitrarily picking percentages out of the air without an iota of visible evidence to back your claims.

Peralta was a 90 fight veteran ,coming off a draw with Bonavena when he fought 16 fight Foreman. He was also a defensive cutie who was only stopped 3 times in 116 fights. Twice as a lhvy, kod by heavy handed Mauro Mina, and stopped on cuts by Pastrano.

The only heavyweight to stop him was Foreman in their rematch.

Peralta went the distance with Lyle x2 ,Foremanx2 and Bonavena.

He could also clout a bit himself as 60 kos in 98 wins attest.
Three years after George beat him he was still good enough to draw with Ron Lyle at the age of 38. I have my doubts a 38 years old Marciano could emulate that feat.

Davila went the distance with Cleve Williams x2 Bonavena,and Leotis Martin. I see no shame in a 20 years old 7 fight Foreman being taken the 8 rds route by him ,especially as Foreman only conceded a round on 2 of the score cards and won every one on the other.

Forte a 42 fight veteran lost every round on all cards against Foreman ,and was dropped in the 2nd rd.
Scrap Iron Johnson twice went the distance with Quarry, the distance with Frazier and into the same 7th rd with Liston.
As usual your points do not stand up to even cursory scrutiny.

 

Foxy was saying foreman beats Marciano (who never was knocked out) in just 2rounds. I was saying (and still am saying) if that is so, that George knocks out a guy who was never knocked out before dosnt this also mean he at least knocks out all guys who WERE knocked out before? how come George didn't knock those guys out?

This whole "marciano gets knocked out in 2 rounds" is based entirely on what George did to Frazier. Inactive Frazier who had begun to get rocked by journey men and was defenceless once hurt in light of losing punch resistance, defence and timing since fighting Ali. Foreman had a picnic against that Frazier who was nothing like Rocky Marciano or even his former self.

 

Lol I tell u these idiot Marciano fans kill me

Foreman whoops his overrated ass

 

''Foreman isn't a true infighter hes an uppercutter with a good right hand''. Muhammad Ali.

 

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A strong majority of the pro Marciano analysts have picked Foreman here.

That is about as one sided a result as you can realistically hope for, in this type of thread.

 

It's obviously not that astonishing. Tenure here proves little.

 

I know that is not how boxing works, I was highlighting how stupid it is to be so certain of Rocky losing in a particular round even though he had never been iced before when in fact Foreman (and all fighters in fact) cannot guarantee to KO all comers all the time. Marciano himself could not do anything with Applegate. I get that. Always did.:good

What are your thoughts on the decline of Fraziers defence, conditioning, timing, punch resistance and lack of being able to land blows on the way in since TFOTC?

Regarding those frazier factors how does that put Marciano in the same jeopardy against Foreman since Rocky at no point of his time as a world class operator did he appear to lose such a big part of his A-game as Frazier did after TFOTC?

Frazier always would have needed to be 100% to be competative against Foreman. In 1973 Joe was half the man he had been when he beat Ali.

And Frazier was not Marciano.

 

Scrap Iron Johnson is an excelent example of how Marciano would fare against Foreman. Johnson was 5'9" he was shorter than Marciano and he posed all the same problems Foreman later had with quawi. Of course Foreman beat both quawi and Johnson but then neither posed any of the greater qualities Rocky had like two handed power, effective defence etc etc. Scrap iron could counter his way in behind a right hand and was come forward busy in an honest swarming kind of way without bothering world class fighters too much..but I can imagine Marciano improving on the sucsess Johnson had in a limited way to the extent that Marciano could turn the fight into something that could come down to stamina and experience.

 

Ur right

Frazier was better than Marciano

 

If its based on marciano and foremans styles but it is not based on styles I sense it is based entirely on Foreman versus 1973 Frazier. Foreman did an excelent job on 73' Frazier who was basically handicapped by the fact that there was a range where he was no longer effective. Also Frazier was defenceless at that range.

Where that fits in with Marciano who retained his punch resistance and timing throughout his time at the top I cannot begin to imagine..