Marciano vs Foreman... What Can The Rock Do?

1973 Frazier was about as punch proof as Leon Spinks. His punch resistance was seriously effected after his first fight with Ali.

 

Who wants to be a Millionaire, game show:-

Starter question for £100 ( easiest one to answer )

'' Who would win between a Prime George Foreman and Prime Rocky Marciano?''

Contestant decides to ask the audience:-

94% George Foreman
6% Rocky Marciano

Reading this thread from the start this is basically what we are dealing with here.

Sometimes there is an element of doubt in a question like this but on the odd occasion you just have to except the overwhelming choice and just admit you may not have a ****ing clue what you are talking about.

 

take away the cigar and the hat and he was just another misinformed guy, I like Dempsey but he rated him # 1 or 2 so enough said

 

the same contestants if asked who would win Jeffries or Floyd or Johnson vs Floyd 98% would pick Floyd and if you asked then Greb or Floyd 100% would pick Floyd

 

The big difference in this case is that the Audience for the threads title question are all mainly knowledgable posters on this site and your good self is one of the 6%.

 

I was never afraid of crowds or majority's and I am one of the few who has actually seen most of these guys fight live maybe 5% of the posters here have, and know a lot of the inside stuff being pretty close to boxing people. Nothing is written in stone and opinions are just that but even though a lot of my boxing friends are dead and gone the knowledge went deep and far. Never be afraid to go against the tide if you feel something in your heart son.

 

Sage advice Bummy, although it's been a long time since anyone has called me son,hehe.
btw, i in no way had any intention of insulting your good self with my comments, i enjoy your knowledge and input and was just trying to put a point across i guess but it may have been misinterpreted.

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George in 2

 

He did!?

LMAO

 

Seems like the less someone knows the more sure they are of the result. Nothing in boxing is certain other than exceptional fighters can be an exception to the rule.

1973 Frazier was not as punch resistant as he had been, but nobody wants to hear it.

Quawi and scrap iron (two handed, come forward maulers) posed difficulties and lasted longer than Frazier and both were shorter than Marciano and Frazier. Nobody wants to hear it.

 

Other than Ali, I don't think I would have much confidence picking anyone over prime Foreman.

 

Having rewatched the Qawi Foreman bout recently, I just don't understand this oft repeated but utterly baseless assertion that Qawi caused Foreman real problems. That fight is just a systematic beatdown of a smaller opponent by a larger opponent. Qawi got in a few sneaky punches but how many rounds did he win? One? It wasn't even competitive after a couple rounds.

Foreman fought 9 times in 1988. This was just another day in the office.

 

It was indeed a good win for George who had every advantage. I think quawi even had a knee strap on. But little tiny quawi could not miss George at all with the right hand. Foreman could brush them off only because he was not getting hit by all time power. He could not afford to be hit by marciano like that. Foreman won. of course he did, but it is intresting how many times he got hit in that fight.

 

It didn't seem to me that Qawi was landing an inordinate amount of shots. He was certainly getting much more return fire. Guys get hit in boxing, no matter how slick or big or long. Marciano would land some shots. But contrary to popular mythology, Marciano was more an attrition puncher, especially during his title reign. He would need to land A LOT of leather to wear down George. I don't think he has a prayer of getting to that point before George has shipped so much in return that he is stopped.

 

Well that is a fair assessment and you are entitled to it but I disagree whole heartedly. If marciano is landing as often as quawi he's making more of an impression than Ali and jimmy young made. The longer it goes the less potent George gets. Remember prime George was not the finished article. Old George was well old george, a veteran with a punch. There was nothing in between. If there was, if there was a version of George that could pace himself and defend himself adequately I would actualy favour George but that was not the case. We have reckless George or old man George. I can't bet on either incarnation. Sorry.