Is Haymon good for boxing and his fighters as

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  1. camden1nj

    camden1nj Active Member Full Member

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    many people think? Arreola got 100K for a heavyweight title shot while guys like Broner and Garcia have been getting 7 figure pay days for years now. Not to mention almost all of his fighters have gotten considerable gifts by judges(Williams v. Lara, Garcia v. Herrera, Berto v. Collazo, Broner v. DeLeon come to mind). He doesn't seem good for boxing and his mismatch control in making fights doesn't seem to help his boxers' development either.
     
  2. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    well whether hes good for boxing is one thing.....his fighters seem pretty happy with him and seem to be making some good coin

    but in regards to helping his fighters develop?

    well he put a young broner in with a tough guy like maidana...in broners 2nd fight at 147 while broner completely skipped 140 and only fought a featherfirst in paulie first.....so that was a pretty risky fight

    pwill-lara was a high risk low reward fight for pwill at the time....some rate lara very highly......so credit there for making a good fight

    garcia-herrera was an entertaining scrap....made to be a sort of homecoming fight for danny garcia after a very big/tough fight with lucas.....

    cant really say much about the bad cards.....but his fighters seem to be making some good money and be in some decent fights
     
  3. jbuffett84

    jbuffett84 Active Member Full Member

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    I doubt either HBO or Showtime was interested in the HW bout. With the exception of Wilder and sometimes Klitschko, neither premium network has any interest in the HW division. ESPN only paid $500,000 rights fee for the card. It's not like Haymon will fork over his own money to Arreola. All of these big purses come from bloated licensing fees, which Showtime is eager to do and HBO no longer wants any part of.

    The Broner deal was brilliant on Haymon's part. Somehow Golden Boy, which foots the bill for PPV undercards, thought Broner would somehow bring additional viewers for the PPV, so they paid the $1.25 million. Broner in a return versus a pedestrian opponent levels only that of Berto getting 7 figures against Freddy Hernandez in terms of largesse from a promoter/network.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He's not good for golden boy that's for sure
     
  5. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Haymon has been good for some American fighters who might otherwise not have gotten much attention or coverage.

    I know a lot of people don't like him, but competition among promoters and channels is a good thing. The fan ends up winning, hopefully (although the fan loses with the "cold war" nonsense).
     
  6. box4life11

    box4life11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Al Haymon is good for his fighters bank accounts but horrible for us boxing fans..
     
  7. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Explain.
     
  8. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    don king, was good for boxers right? GTFO!!
     
  9. STB

    STB #noexcuses Full Member

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    He puts on entertaining fights, and gets his fighters paid.

    Whats the problem?
     
  10. Koba

    Koba Whimsical Inactivisist Full Member

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    Time will tell I guess. With his ever growing stable it's gonna be hard to keep consisantly paying all of them over the market rate. We'll just have to keep an eye on that over the next few years

    What does worry me somewhat is his name being linked to 2 big HBO fights falling through already this year - if there is, as seems possible, a deliberate strategy of sabotaging HBOs marquee fights (or at the very least upbidding them past the point of fiscal prudence - as in Ward vs La Bomba) then that definitely isn't a good thing for the sport or fans.

    I'm very curious as to what information about Haymons business methods will come out of the Main Events lawsuit. It's a kind of open secret that Haymons working both sides of the manger / promoter firewall, but solid information about what exactly it is that he does do might help to clarify matters.
     
  11. robert80

    robert80 Boxing Addict banned

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    Main events, do not have a case against haymon. Don king, robs norris off 7 million dollars & this guys a saint!! Arum, blackmails, bradley, pac & he is a ****ing saint?
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Arreola isn't and will never get **** for as long as he's with Goossen.
     
  13. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    All of these promoters are dodgey people. At least Haymon looks after his own but as a fan I do feel he prevents big fights.
     
  14. robert80

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    Who started the network war again?
     
  15. Undisputed P4P

    Undisputed P4P esb FBL & FIFA 12 champ Full Member

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    what fighters say about haymon is that he gets them the fights they want.

    Molina went to haymon and said give me matthysse, he got his wish.

    matthysse asked for Garcia, he got it.

    malignaggi wanted a title shot after beating Judah, he got porter.

    Peterson wanted matthysse, he got it.

    maidana wanted mayweather, he got it.

    broner asked for demarco, malignaggi and maidana, he got all 3.

    also a haymon fighter very rarely fights in his opponents back yard, which is where the notion of him buying the judges comes from. he ensures his fighter boxes at home or neutral territory, that way the chances of them getting the edge in a close fight is good.