Floyd Mayweather vs Ray Leonard...

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  1. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Like PBF would ever sign to fight a true champion like SRL !!! Wake up ! He would never dare to share a ring with SRL or Hearns...
     
  2. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you got that backwards son
     
  3. Waynegrade

    Waynegrade Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd ALWAYS looks to safely win,using his skills to keep it at a safe distance and not put himself at risk... I can assure you,against the likes of SRR and Hearns he would be at significant risk... Then power,heart and a willingness to put yourself at risk comes into play. He is too concerned about his 0 and looking good. That will NOT get it done against the likes of SRL...
     
  4. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well, that's what skillful boxers do. Ray would have no choice but to pursue fleetfooted Floyd

    I think u severely underestimate what Floyd can do!

    Floyd still great at 38. Unbeaten in fact

    so Floyd wins this one sided contest with little to fear as Ray just cannot hit a moving target (Hearns 1, Norris)

    Fearless Floyd forever :smoke
     
  5. Waynegrade

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    A warning, red rooster is a window licker of epic proportions...
     
  6. Foxy 01

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    I assume you have a Bachelor Of Science degree in revisionism.

    Leonard did NOT hit a moving target in his first fight with Hearns. In fact the " boxer " was being out boxed. He did however out fight Hearns when Tommy became too tired to box and move.
     
  7. Foxy 01

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    No, I believe that honour firmly goes to both you, and McFay. I think one of his better ones was claiming Leonard was 36 and 41 respectively when he was battered by both Norris and Camacho.

    Personally I don't claim to be a mathematician but I'm pretty sure if you are born in May 56, and you fight someone in February 91 you are not yet 35, never mind 36.

    Just simply yet another example of revisionist lying by silly little Leonard fangirls to try to excuse their hero's limitations.:lol::lol::lol:
     
  8. redrooster

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    after losing how many rounds?

    leonard, in Leonard Hearns 1, is the poster child for the thread titled "fighters who shouldve let their hands go more"

    He won yes, but looked terrible in doing so, sort of like Lamotta-Dauthille 2.

    Tommy had inadvertantly found the strategy fro turning Sugar from sweet to sour which was, give him movement, give him feints, change directions, etc.

    Had Tommy come in at a healthier weight, and learned the art of clinching, he wouldve won

    Ray caught a lot of criticism from Clancy on his poor performance and was MY inspiration to predict his harpooning from a fighter named Terry Norris (maybe u heard of him?)

    Leonard couldnt do squat

    Floyd would give him the same treatment

    Floyd would box, bang, N move and once again, Ray would become bewitched, bothered, N bewildered
     
  9. Waynegrade

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    Great share Einstein ;)
     
  10. redrooster

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    did you say Leonard was a true champion?

    u must mean champion of ducking other fighters

    we couldnt say that at first but after 1982, I had no problems with it

    BTW, the Hearns strategy was the perfect blueprint to hand leonard that devestating defeat but it took the right talent like Norris to implement it

    and as in the first Hearns fight, the only time Ray laid a glove on Terry was when he stood still for him (ala Dave Green, ala Kalule, Hagler, Finch,, you know, THOSE GUYS)

    considering Floyd's speed N movement (which he is well known for) and Ray's chaces for success go way down

    Floyd at 38, still grea, sitll unbeaten. cant say nothing negative about that can you?
     
  11. frankenfrank

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  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He knew he was getting a broken down old fighter and that's what really counted for him. the way his fans like to play it is, "He got beat by a one eyed coke addict". They like to play up Ray's greatness

    It makes me wonder, would he have come out at the time had Marv looked as sharp as say, Roy Jones? Still, his fans like to act dumb, hoping to fool the rest of us

    He's really not an all time great but I place him at 45 just to shut them up
     
  13. Foxy 01

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    The most enjoyable part of ridiculing these idiotic fanboys who wriggle and squirm ,and try to make excuses for their heroes, is you just KNOW that at the time of the fight, they fell for all the bull**** coming from said fighters mouth. Things like I'm in great shape. I'll win this fight. My age has nothing to do with it. I've adapted my game to suit the position I'm in now, blah, blah, blah.

    So enjoy the squirming now Rooster, its priceless.
     
  14. Loudon

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    I don't really know you as a poster that well, so I don't know if you're trolling or being serious?

    I've kept my eye on this thread for a few weeks now, so I thought I'd finally contribute.

    Styles make fights.

    Tommy caused Ray huge problems, because he was 6'1, with a 78' reach, and he possessed a lightning fast jab. Tommy was a great boxer, and a freak of nature at 147.

    Ray couldn't out box him. He tried and failed. As Foxy as alluded to, he had to fight Tommy to beat him.

    Now Floyd is an exceptional boxer with great skills.

    But just because Tommy was out boxing Ray, that doesn't mean that Floyd could have done the same.

    Floyd is 5'8, with a 72' reach. In comparison to Tommy, Floyd is small.

    Ray is 5'10, with a 74' reach.

    Ray is naturally bigger, was just as skilled, just as fast, and stronger with a lot more fire power.

    What has Terry Norris got to do with anything?
     
  15. redrooster

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    It took Hagler only 2 & 1/2 rounds and was shorter than Ray so that is my reply to your analysis

    Moreover, we also have Norris-Leonard, in which the job was much more thorough, more convincing

    No height disadvantage

    no reach disadvantage

    Terry stood roughly 5-10, more or less the same height as Ray, caused Ray HUGER problems

    only, with much less experience going in against a man that hadnt lost a fight in ten years and in which no one gave him a chance to win

    so your statement "Just cuz Tommy outboxed him (no one was going to outbox Tommy), doesnt mean Floyd would. Tommy had tremendous height & reach & blah blah blah!...I've been scoping out this thread for weeks now & blah blah blah! I dont know if you're serious or a troll & blah blah blah!" doesnt hold much water if BOTH Tommy and Terry (with no physical advantages) outboxed him

    Tommy gave the blueprint for how to beat Sugar. Terry, thru painstaking preparation, implemented it to perfection, and I'm confident that Floyd, unbeaten at 38, would have no problem repeating the lesson becuz as well know, Ray is not comfortable coming foward as the aggressor. Ray Leonard was only a runner so stop mking excuses for him

    "what has Terry Norris got to do with anything?" :patsch