Who could have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr?

actually I don't know whether froch is better than calzaghe, only his resume is better. so contrary to your lie above, no I haven't said either is better like you did.

the reason I don't know why froch is better than joe? because joe ran like a cowardzaghe from his mandatory with froch.

if joe hadn't run in terror then we would know the answer and then I could tell you the answer as a fact. But I will NEVER assume one is better than the other, unlike you who is doing the assuming with all the opinions you offered so far.

I want facts, not lies or opinions. lies are the way of the cowardzaghe. but you are welcome to deal with lies and opinions.

 

A pick em fight IMO.

 

Golovkin.

 

Nope.

 

There are many that probably could and would, Jones 168-175 operating space is crowded with some H2H monsters.

160-175 SMW-LHW

Sam Langford
Harry Greb
Gene Tunney
Jimmy Bivins
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Floyd Patterson
Harold Johnson
Bob Foster
Michael Spinks

All stand a great chance. Some of the most brilliant technicians and minds to step into the ring, many have elite HW/CW power and durability.

Also...

Joey Maxim steals at least one decision. Lloyd Marshall has a puncher's chance.

 

He beat hopkins and middleweight. That was it. His career there was very brief but you would pick him over Hagler, Monzon, Greb and Robinson?

I agree with you about super middle though

 

Yep, them as well. Good shout outs there. Conn is another one of those all time greats that potentially beat Jones.

Moorer and DM are monster punchers and finishers at that weight. DM in his own time was a rival to Jones and was just successful against common opposition.

Hearns was past his best at this range but could still turn in a throwback performance. His brain, power, speed, and length would make him one of Jones' most dangerous opponents.

160-175 is historically stacked with dominant all time greats and potentional bad match ups for Jones. I don't see how people can say nobody. I would bet my house that Charles, Moore, or Patterson would take Jones' head off before the final bell.

 

Nobody in history beats prime RJJ.


If he retired on March 2nd 2003, he would have been GOAT p4p.

He should have stayed at CW before draining himself and getting sparked by Tarver.

I know CW was a weak division then, but had Roy just stayed there, rematched Toney, fought Jirov, Jones, Nelson etc......he'd still be GOAT.deal

 

Of the late 90s maybe but historically he doesn't measure up to Sugar Ray Robinson, Harry Greb, Ezzard Charles, Archie Moore, Henry Armstrong..etc.

 

Stop with that RJJ hype .. He has a terrible glass jaw and ducked Michaelczewski. He didn't want to face a puncher and was known for cherrypicking.

GGG by KO in round 3. Some pressure, hurting with body punches and finally shattering the jaw. RJJ was hit by was worse fighters .. It's not that the opponents didn't land a single punch.

 

This isnt true at all..

Jones often finished opponents in a more spectacular manner than DM, Jones also destroyed Hall who gave DM hell, Jones also wiped the floor with Gonzalez who beat DM. Roy was better against the common opponent and overall has a much better resume than DM.

 

Jones didn't do much at MW except beat a young Hopkins, who hardly resembeled the difficult tricky opponent he would become.

It would be hard to pick someone who did so little at that weight over the more established Hagler and Monzon.

 

This is spot on. And I agree with the point about Hopkins not resembling the fighter he would become....whenever I have watched Bernard fight over the last 10 years the thing that jumps out at me is not speed or strength, but his IQ and his use of all the veteran moves he has picked up over the years, which is something he obviously didn't have when fighting Jones.

As much as I like Roy, the hype he gets here seems a little ridiculous at times. The fact that he had such a short stay at 160lbs yet people here would pick him to beat fighters who have established themselves as all time greats at the weight makes little sense to me.

 

"just as successful against common opposition" not who was more spectacular.

Jones: Hill, Griffinx2, Hall, Gonzales
4-1 3 KOs

DM: Hill, Griffin, Hall x2, Gonzales,
4-1 3 KOs

So what I said is true.

 

Hopkins was ranked higher than Jones and didn't lose again for a very long time.. Jones also had an injury in that fight.

Jones' speed and power at MW were insane, and he had plenty of devestating knockouts there..

He can be compared H2H to the very best there IMO. Remember, at a time when 168 didn't exist, Jones probably would have been a MW a bit longer.