Who could have beaten a prime Roy Jones Jr?

I didn't see any triple left hooks, or 8 punch combinations.

I did see good one punch speed, but he seemed sloppy at times, staggering around with his hands down.. I think Roy would eat him alive.

 

Jones-DM would have likely gone the distance..

I think Roy knew it, and its part of the reason he didin't go to Germany to fight him.

 

It was also a boring fight but not near as boring as Jones Hopkins I & II.

There was little action in Jones-Toney. Crowd also booed but not nearly as bad as Jones-Hopkins I. It was a boo-fest throughout basically the whole fight.

 

Fine Gonzalez...prove me wrong.

What are DMs 5 biggest wins?
Why are you giving him some reputation that he clearly doesnt deserve?

Staying in Germany and beating

You could easily say Woods had just as good a resume.

We have no idea how high DM ranked because he spent most of his career fighting nobodies in Europe with a couple of decent fights thrown in.

Roy dropped Gonzalez, Johnson, Telesco.

Im not sure why you consider DM to have a great chin, Who was the biggest puncher he ever faced?

No one on Jones level of power, thats for certain.

 

-Because you didn't watch the clip or pay attention. Marshall scores a knockdown off a triple left hook though Mills drops before the third lands, and Marshall also scores a triple right hook that floors Mills. 8 punch? There's a few lengthy combos but I don't recall Jones himself getting that cute against a larger dangerous opponent either.

-Sloppy, staggery around? I think you are refering to one moment where Marshall lost his footing after being pushed. Marshall has some amazing foot work and is anything but sloppy. He looks like he's on ice skates at points. Hands down? Like Jones?

-A bold prediction, Marshall would be the most dangerous man he ever fought. Also keep in mind, Marshall is 33 in this clip and still comparable to Jones.

 

Who klnows?
It never happened.

Lets say Jones fought him and won every round?
Lets say he beat him like he beat Woods and Gonzalez.

Everyone would just say DM was a fraud with a padded record.

Jones not fighting him was the best thing to ever happen to DM's legacy.

 

20 something guys beat him....I think you could add Jones to that number.

 

Like I said

WHO KNOWS????

They never fought!

To answer that question, Id have to be some sort of Soothsayer.

If Jones beat him badly, the win would be sneered upon by the like of you today as a "meaningless win against a fighter with a padded record"

Who knows how DM would have reacted to the loss. We'll never know.

So, to be plain, the question is stupid.

They never fought, so its impossible to compare it to Gonzalez who Jones DID fight and who went on to have a pretty successful career afterwards.

 

Let's not go there.

Roughly 15 of those happneed after the age of 30.

Marshall fought on a monthly basis against multiple Hall of Fame opponents. He usually gave up weight. He actually beat Joey Maxim, who had 35 lbs on hm.

Lets see Jones record under such conditions.

I've even provided you with footage STB, and you have offered no analysis at all.

 

Those 8 f'in minutes??

I could show you 8 mins of footage of Jones that would make you think he was a friggin comic book superhero.

Im supposede to make a judgement on 8 minutes of footage?

 

Also which fight of Grebs and Langofrd would you tell me to watch (start to finish) to prove they were better than Jones?

Surely you've seen full fights of theirs.l...right?

Why else would you make the claim that they're better than Jones?

 

That's most of the fight, some full rounds, and enough to guage that even at 33 years old, Marshall had a style and ability comparable to Jones. Nor is he showing off against a cupcake, but a larger younger man tested against HWs who would win the LHW Championship in less than a year's time.

 

Your being childish. I already said there is no fight footage of Greb. And he still deserves consideration because he's not exactly an enigma. We have detailed reports and footage of the great fighters he bested.

Concentrate on Marshall first. You haven't even demonstrated that you can analyze a 5 round fight.

Also amsuing that you are focusing this on the older ones, plenty of footage of Charles, Patterson, and Moore for instance. Can you breakdown why you feel Jones would best them?

 

You're backtracking.

You started out by naming fighters who you've never actually seen fight a full fight, and now are obfuscating.

Fwiw, I saw nothing in those grainy few minutes of footage that would make me think he could beat Jones. Lesser men than Jones beat him in his prime.

Patterson was a HW.

Jones spent the vast majority of his career between 160 and 175.

And frankly I think Jones could have beaten any of the fighters you named in his prime...even though most of his years at 175 were spent there over the age of 30.

 

-How am I backtracking, my original response:

What are you talking about, Greb is the only guy on there we don't have fight footage of.

-You are apparently backtracking because you originally said:

fighters that they have NEVER actually seen in a fight.

You have now added "full" to your criteria after I presented near complete footage of a fight. :good

-That's vague and frankly crap. And lesser men than Marshall would get to Jones if he was fighting monthly or more into his late 30s in an era without strict weight regulations.

-Patterson has came in at 168 before turning HW. The Patterson who owned Jimmy Slade would be quite the match for Jones. He was still young but his speed is unmatched from 160-up. Factor in his deadly power, combination punching, and peek a boo pressure, and Jones would be in for a rought night.

-And I disagree. Nothing against Jones but historically this a stacked weight range with guys like Charles, Moore, Bivins and Greb usually regarded as high end all time P4P.