Hugh McIntosh was made referee of Burns vs Johnson despite his admission he knew nothing about boxing rules and had bet heavily on a Johnson victory beforehand. Is this true or false?
Oh boy, here we go... "The Johnson Burns fight was fixed and thats the only reason Johnson was able to beat Burns and become champion." So is this a different excuse for Burns from your "he was jaundice and feverish during the fight" excuse or "he was fouled" excuse?
Do you care to answer the question, or off tangent? Yes or No did Hugh McIntosh have a bet on Johnson in the fight?
You can reply, or shall I say you already did in the past Noting like a ref betting on a fight he is officiating! Fair in square for sure http://www.boxingforum24.com/showthread.php?p=15743742 post #47. But other references of McIntosh betting on Johnson are out there.
You total idiot .I was referring to the Johnson v Jeffries fight! Oh my Christ ,he gets worse!atsch For your information McIntosh had refereed Burns against Lang for the title just 3 months prior to officiating as third man for the Johnson v Burns fight.Therefore one presumes he had some knowledge of the proceedings . Burns and McIntosh were close friends that is common knowledge. I'll let you embarrass yourself a bit further, for our general entertainment ,then I'll come in for the" coup de grace".
Skipping a quick error ( my mistake ), lets get back to the point of the thread. Are you saying McIntosh did not bet on Johnson in the Burns fight? I read he did: Hugh McIntosh, the fight promoter, for example, was made referee despite his admission he knew nothing about boxing rules and had bet heavily on a Johnson victory beforehand. However, he was the only one the two sides would agree to referee the bout. Both parties believed the other’s choices were biased and likely to be prejudiced in the favour of the proponent. Burns however did relent on a major issue that had been playing on Johnson’s mind for a while; the referee could award the fight on points if it came down to it. Before his consent to this, it was assumed Burns might still retain his title even if he was knocked off his feet, disqualified, or led out of the ring by his seconds. So strong was Burns’ belief in himself he let Johnson’s conscience be soothed by his concession and trained lightly in the weeks leading up to the fight. Jack Johnson-Tommy Burns Fight 1908
Let me explain how this works. You make a statement someone ,[Klompton/me/ whom ever]disputes it. The onus is then on you to prove your statement. I'll give you a little rope here because you aren't too smart. So here's some help. I've already told you that McIntosh had refereed Burns in a world heavyweight title fight just 3 months prior to the Johnson challenge Burns trained like a maniac for the Johnson fight, he was in the best shape of his life. Onlookers commented on how convincing and impressive his public workouts were. He had shed excess weight ,and was finely honed for the fight. He was the betting favourite. Burns had 4 fights in Australia all were scheduled for 20 rounds.McIntosh was the referee for 3 of them. Now you have to produce some proof to back up your claims. Please tell me you haven't been reading Dan McCaffery again?atsch I'll say one thing for you . No matter how many times you are made to look an absolute ass, you still come back for more. ps PROPONENT?????
Can we see these references to McIntosh betting on Johnson against Burns? Meanwhile here is London's ringside account of the fight. He didn't give Burns a single, solitary round. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5157506
Well, yeah, sorry. I've got the Pacifism Tourette Syndrome pretty ba-Can't we all just get alone?! Can't we?!
What would that matter if the film is incomplete? The question here is did McIntosh bet on Johnson or not? Do you know the answer, and if so, can you share it here? According to Burns, McIntosh took hold of his left glove while forcing a break in the first round and Johnson struck him on the jaw with a right uppercut. The force of the blow lifted Burns off his feet and sent him to the canvas for a count of eight.