why i like showtime better than hbo...

uNF · May 23, 2014

zetsui said: ↑

1. That's one sport 2. This is recent. Sho's and HBOs entire leadership is new over the last 8 years. Espinoza was practicing law before then. 3. The evolution of what is 'white' has evolved. Italians Irish and Jews were not considered 'whtie' in the 60s in America. Many are not only considered by minorities as such but also self identify as such now. There are almost entirely Jewish towns here in New Jersey (Short Hills, Morristown, Summit) but 90%+ of the population identifies as Caucasian. Sterling's comments did not come as a shock to me. The longer version of his phone call makes a definite contrast to many of the Sephardim and Ethiopian groups in Israel as a base for his racist opinions.

4. Many Jewish americans, unless making it obvious, could probably fit for 'white' to most people around them. They tend to hire other Jews/people form their background (like many would say sports managers hire other white people). Not so much out of outright race, but because it reminds themselves of thmeselves/comfortable culture (ie not explaining leaving work on Friday because of Sabbath). Since Espinoza has come on CBS has hired two other Jewish executives at Showtime boxing. That's no coincidence to me.

Sadly many of the insecurities that were used to keep such people out of sports a generation ago are now being perpetuated by those very same minorities. Again my point is to point out race, but to show green, and demographics stop the leadership from representing value makers
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Mate you're hopeless.

I thought I might help lead you in the right direction.

But as long as Jew's say, "I consider myself White" .... then they must be White.

Ashkenazi Jews are the dominant group in finance/media/politics and have been for decades, they just trot out Black Jews every now and then to dupe morons like yourself.

Keep thinking White interests correlate with Jewish interests.

MVC. · May 23, 2014

Showtime > HBO

dangerousity · May 23, 2014

lmao, apart from the constant dik sucking of Floyd you mean? Heck they might as well have given him head in between rounds. Ah well, gotta protect that 200 mil investment.

MVC. · May 23, 2014

dangerousity said: ↑

lmao, apart from the constant dik sucking of Floyd you mean? Heck they might as well have given him head in between rounds. Ah well, gotta protect that 200 mil investment.
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Location - UK

You have no chin dude, none. I would end you with a soft range finder

Showtime > HBO. Fact

Deal with it ******* :hi:

zetsui · May 23, 2014

uNF said: ↑

Mate you're hopeless.

I thought I might help lead you in the right direction.

But as long as Jew's say, "I consider myself White" .... then they must be White.

Ashkenazi Jews are the dominant group in finance/media/politics and have been for decades, they just trot out Black Jews every now and then to dupe morons like yourself.

Keep thinking White interests correlate with Jewish interests.
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My point isn't Jewish or white..it's that nepotism and race play a much larger role than talent. Period.

Xelloss · May 23, 2014

Honestly I thought Jacobs did a better job that Paulie has done lately. Paulie seems to be getting more colored as time goes on.

Bernstein is usually pretty good, but that other guy whos name I can never remember, Steve Farhood - has just been kind of annoying. On HBO, Max and Jim are OK. Not sure why they get so much hate, sometimes they say interesting things sometimes they are a tad annoying.

I agree that Ward is good, not sure why some dont like him. I like having the calm accurate voice present.

As far as matches... not sure how anyone can say that HBO is doing showcases while SHO is not. That view heavily conflicts with any type of objective reality.

Xelloss · May 23, 2014

daprofessor said: ↑

like republicans and democrats? :huh:
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Like people who say different things about certain things, but do pretty much the same **** 95% of the time? Yeah, thats actually pretty spot on.

progamer · May 23, 2014

*****s like choketime more than hbo.

boorrriiiinnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

dealt_with · May 23, 2014

Agreed. Showtime kills HBO. When a fight is on HBO and it's a good fight/match up my enjoyment of it gets destroyed by that team of clowns. They all sound bitter and bored of the sport.

box4life11 · May 23, 2014

Merchant was a boss
I like Bernstein as well

progamer · May 23, 2014

dealt_with said: ↑

Agreed. Showtime kills HBO. When a fight is on HBO and it's a good fight/match up my enjoyment of it gets destroyed by that team of clowns. They all sound bitter and bored of the sport.
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how about the real clowns pedjr brought to the fight? nice right?

choketime/pedjr = wwe meets jersey shore show.:rofl:hi:

Piece · May 23, 2014

I liked it before Mayweather made the networks go against eachother because he was too ***** to fight Pacquaio like a man, despite the fact that he talked all that ****.

At the end of the day, the HBO vs SHOWTIME feud never existed before it became another MAYWEATHER ROADBLOCK.

progamer · May 23, 2014

Piece said: ↑

I liked it before Mayweather made the networks go against eachother because he was too ***** to fight Pacquaio like a man, despite the fact that he talked all that ****.

At the end of the day, the HBO vs SHOWTIME feud never existed before it became another MAYWEATHER ROADBLOCK.
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there's never a network roadblock.

they were in the same network before bu tthere was no fight.

so it doesnt matter what network they will be, pedjr would still be in africa.:good

Sweet Jones · May 23, 2014

Heavy Handed said: ↑

Don't play dumb. You know exactly what I am talking about. Look at the latest Showtime PPV for example, and the ridiculous purses that were involved. That was a result of paying fighters much more than they are worth.

I read boxing articles from Google News, which has numerous outlets. I don't know these so called shills you are talking about. Is that something you discovered personally outside the internet message boards? Are you a journalist? Where does your work get posted? I'd read it.
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Who, exactly, says the fighters aren't worth that much?

Has it ever crossed your mind that these guys are finally getting the actual of compensation they should have long been receiving all these years?

Karl · May 23, 2014

modernfonzie said: ↑

Health should always come first. Anyone who's suffered from something dealing with boxing will tell you that. Ali would tell you that. Mago, if functioning properly would tell you that.

They mock boxers, when he says "my health comes first" and People say "They should trade blows, a real warrior would fight to the death"

With all due respect, Thats absolutely ridiculous. This is sport, not a coliseum duel. Though it is a violent sport, the name of the game is still winning.

Fighters have styles, just like any other athletes in sports. When fighters try to fight in ways that aren't in their best interest, for the purpose of pleasing fans, that's when they lose.

These are human beings and this is a brutal sport. The man that can participate in this sport, make a ton of money and leave with his mental and physical faculties is the winner.

Not the guy with slurred speech, pennies to his name and one who is holding on to nothing more than the respect from fans that say: "He fought in some wars, he was a real warrior."

How many bills does that pay? What happens when you can't walk your daughter down the aisle in 15 years?

They say: Real fighters are the ones "who impacted the world and took the chances to fight everyone and risk it all for the fans."

Risk it all for the fans for what? So somebody you never met in your life can regard you as great but you're still a shell of yourself in front of children and wife? Stumbling, slurring your speech, and walking around with a cane, only to be stopped in the street occasionally by fully capable human beings with all their faculties who say " Hey, way to go champ, you're a real warrior"

Come on. don't ask another man to do something you wouldn't be willing to do yourself.

This is a business as much as it is a sport.

The art of the sport has always been to hit and not get hit.

People were bad mouthing Alvarado when he decided not to come back out against Ruslan. As if the man doesnt have family to go home to, a mother to hug, sons to guide, daughters to protect.

Boxing is a sport, and it's a job. This isn't a Rocky movie with fake blood, fake swellings. There is no one yelling "action" and "cut", there are no redos. They are taking these punches, to their faces. Every outing. That's why I dont like Rocky movies. It gave an unrealistic view to a lot of people of what boxing is supposed to be.

Every punch that every fighter takes has a chance to seriously injure them.
So we have to grateful for the sport we have and are able to watch.

I love a good fight like everyone else, but no one deserves to be disabled or battered over this stuff.

Theres nothing cool about taking damage, whether its Pacquiao getting knocked out, Ali with Parkinsons, Sugar Ray with a detached retina, or Magomed Abdusalamov in a coma.

These guys put their lives on the line to entertain. Accept them for what they are and keep your opinions to yourself. Because you and I both know damn well. NO ONE here, or any of those bloggers, or vloggers can/ or would be willing to take those punches.

These dudes have to live on 30-40 years after their careers end. Life doesnt stop after boxing, and it shouldn't stop during either.

Health should always come first. It's always the most important thing.

That's why I hate when Lampley and other people complain about "safety first" boxers.

It gets under my skin. If you're gonna appreciate the sport, appreciate all sides of it, not just the one you favor.
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