Is Anthony Joshua a boxer or bodybuilder?

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  1. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    I can never understand why a man who is 6'6" would ever take steroids. My mouth dropped when I heard that Vitali Klitschko got popped for the stuff once too. I can just picture these behemoths curled up around a pint of Haagen-Dazs crying, "Look at these little twig arms. I'm tiny, pathetic, and weak! I'll never be the champ of the world!" Smashing mirrors, walking around in platform shoes. Got that self-loathing and poor self body image of a little girl.
     
  2. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because you can't train 6+hours/day for weeks and recover without drugs. Your every past and present boxing hero has done them.

    --In the 1860s, a group of swimmers in Amsterdam were charged with taking drugs to speed up their races. For the next 80 years or so, athletes who wanted to cheat focused mostly on stimulants to speed themselves up.

    In 1935, the male hormone testosterone was first synthesized. During World War II, German soldiers were reportedly given testosterone to increase their performance and aggressiveness on the battlefield.

    In the 1940s testosterone began to be widely used in competitive sports, but the dangers of loading up on testosterone were not yet clear. In the 1952 Olympics, the Russian weightlifting and wrestling teams dominated those sports, at least in part due to synthetic testosterone.--

    Boxing fans are in denial.
     
  3. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's not denial. There is just no proof/real reason to believe all/most top boxers are on PED's.
     
  4. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You can't train 6+hours/day for weeks and recover without drugs.

    Combat sport practitioners are the biggest gear hogs right after bodybuilders, power- and weight lifters.
     
  5. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Have any sources to show that most boxers train that much and how intense that training is?
     
  6. iceman71

    iceman71 WBC SILVER Champion Full Member

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    anyone that isnt a lard ass like you who sits around on his couch eating potato chips all day that has any kind of muscle must be on roids right?
    fuc.king moron, the guy works out unlike you fat boy
     
  7. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Rumour has it he is playing the baddie in the next Star Wars movies , A jedi turned bad called Darth China :)
     
  8. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    'Training camp'; what do you think happens there? 10 minutes of this and another one of that?

    --A boxer's training depends largely on the point in their career at which he or she is situated. If the boxer is just a beginner, a minimal training routine might consist of learning how to hit the heavy bag, the speed bag, and the double end bag (a small bag with a cord on top and bottom connecting it to the floor and ceiling) as well as doing shadowboxing in front of a mirror, skipping rope, calisthenics and jogging every day, as well as an occasional practice bout inside the ring (sparring).

    Most beginning boxers will spend most of their early careers conditioning and establishing the fundamentals. For the amateur or professional boxer preparing for a competition or bout, however, training is much more stringent. Boxing is widely considered one of the most physically demanding sports in the world.--
     
  9. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't know exactly, that's why I asked.

    I know roughly what types of training they do but I don't know exactly how many hours per day, how many days per week and how intensely they train.

    I just looked up Froch's regime. It sounds doable without PED's depending on how intensely it's done, your genetics and building your way up to that level from childhood.

    Most top boxers could be on PED's but I'm not the type to believe accusations without some good evidence.
     
  10. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've been working out my entire life, drinking raw eggs, abstaining from skanks and wanks, constantly constipated cause of all the protein, and I can barely bench 225 lb.

    This guy is definitely on roids, HGH, insulin, IGF-1, restylane, you name it.
     
  11. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on what?
     
  12. Danebrogen

    Danebrogen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Based on my life long experience in the gym. I've seen everything, from the gym rat who gained 40 pounds in 3 months and ended up on the streets giving bj's to hobos to get enough protein, to the fat old guy in the corner who spends hos entire workout sitting still on the seated leg curl machine while his wife is banging the yoga instructor.

    I know my ****, and this guy is on roids.
     
  13. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So what is it specifically about this guy that makes you think he's taking something?
     
  14. Overhill

    Overhill Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As long as drugs are 'officially' banned in boxing, you won't get enough evidence from mainstream media to overcome your denial.
    Drug fueled sport is simply a better product to sell than clean one.

    ..how could a clean, top fighter be as well conditioned as his rivalries who are on gear?
    Difference that they produce is enormous.
     
  15. Bub

    Bub Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You could be right but the evidence could come from elsewhere. Lance Armstrong is a good example, that case shows that it can remain covered up for a long time but also shows that it is possible to expose the cheating. And again it's not denial, I just don't believe everything I read/hear unless their is something substantial to back it up.

    The athletes will be more impressive so that will make the sport easier to sell but in boxing in particular, you have the danger of someone getting badly hurt or killed which would be bad for the sport

    For the most part they wouldn't be but technically it's possible based on genetics. For example I think a clean Roy Jones Jr would still be quicker than a juicing Carl Froch and a clean Matthysse would still hit harder than a juicing Malignaggi. The same goes for endurance but I'm struggling to think of boxers with bad stamina to use as examples.

    I do suspect certain fighters of using PED's but then there are others who I strongly suspect are/were clean (at least most of the time). I'm just not going to be certain that most of them are using without some hard evidence. What I'm seeing in the ring most of the time doesn't seem superhuman and impossible to do without PED's.