Floyd Mayweather vs Ray Leonard...

Leonard every time

 

Like 'El Radar'?

 

Foxy 01,

Possibly.

But can you seriously envisage Floyd signing to have fought Ray?

Because I certainly can't.

 

:good

 

Nice to see you around these parts, Loudon. Good to have your input.

 

It's been a pleasure mate.

I think that I should spend a lot more time on here, rather than the General.

 

Foxy 01,

I know all of this.

But I didn't make the thread.

Again, realistically, the fight would have to have taken place at WW.

That means it would be a 2005-onwards version of Floyd, vs Ray when he was at WW.

We both know that it's not really fair, because Floyd peaked at lower weights.

But again, the thread is asking what would of happened had they fought.

I agree entirely. But obviously Ray wouldn't have had the same respect towards Floyd.

It would have been significant, when their speed and skill were equal, and Ray had a huge advantage in power at the weight.

Again, it would have been significant.

It's not relevant when discussing a fight between Ray and Floyd at WW.

How do you mean, not in the slightest?

You were talking about Ray and Marvin's circumstances at MW, in 1987.

Floyd's circumstances would have been completely different at WW, in the early 80's.

A guy who stopped a peak Hearns, wouldn't have been worried about a 5'8 WW, who possessed no power at the weight.

It's illogical to think otherwise.

That's right, because I don't think it's relevant.

He'd met Benitez, Duran and Hearns.

How worried would Floyd have made him, with no power and advantages over him?

Why not?

He's bigger, more powerful, stronger, and he wouldn't have had any respect for Floyd's power.

Floyd would have had nothing to stop Ray from continuously walking forward.

Floyd's output at WW is low, against guys nowhere near Ray's ability.

He'd need it against a guy of equal ability and speed, that also outsized him.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

Again, I didn't make the thread.

Floyd weighs in at 152 when he fights at JMW.

So the fight really has to take place at WW.

Yes, but we're talking about Ray Leonard at WW.

Huge difference.

I'm not underestimating him.

Floyd is one of the best ever.

But again, his peak was at the lower weights.

Saying that Ray would be too much for him at WW, isn't an insult to Floyd. Going against him isn't showing him disrespect etc. He's been matched up against one of the greatest fighters of all time, that would have held significant advantages over him.

The fact that the thread has been made in the first place, is a testament to Floyd's greatness.

You need to look objectively and logically, when analysing any fantasy fight.

 

"El Radar"

Yeah, fast with his body, slow with his hands & feet. little in the way of offense - made to order for Ray Leonard

 

Did you even finish grade school ??? Please do NOT write on my posts any more and get the help you need...Also, a dictionary will help you with spelling... BTW, SRL whip,s Fraud,s ass

 

Yeah, another nobody who Ray fought, right?

I see that you still haven't listed Floyd's best wins, that stack up to Ray's best wins.

I wonder why that is?

 

Whew ! Had to add foxy to the ignore list with rooster... The use of name-calling was getting really old to listen to... He and rooster, (like two petulant children) hate to be ignnored and can,t actually read so they can,t comprehend questions... That being said, SRL is in a whole different class level than PBF. PBF had his hands full with the likes of Castillo ?? While Leonard fight,s the Duran,s Hearns,Benitez and Hagler,s... PBF had his hands full with a less than in Castillo and a well worn Oscar. Can anyone see him willing to put himself at risk and do what,s necessary to beat SRL at welter ?? Leonard 14 RD stoppage... Geez if he could grind down the dangerous Hitman with pressure and a steady body attack, he breaks down PBF even easier...

 

just another ploy to make Floyd out a chicken. There's nothing for Floyd to concern himself with becuz Leonard was just a runner

I find it hard to believe you think Hagler walked away from the sport becuz he was bitter

that's not even logic!

after striving for years to earn the big paydays? finally earning more than Leonard, and he just stops.
run it around the block a few times

Redrooster weighs the evidence before him before passing judgement

when you have the fact that 1) the suspicious timing of his comeback against a fighter he flat out refused to meet in his prime and 2) Hagler had lost two of his titles outside the ring and was no long undisputed champ 3) Sugr told ex opponent "thanks for softening him up for me buddy" 4) more admissions to Tim Ryan as to the timing of his comeback which was blurted out during round 6 5) the fact Hagler never fought again

you must conclude that he was finished as a fighter and champion whether you believe it or not

 

He can, t read so he can,t answer what Floyd,s best `win` was !! I,m guessing he,ll say ATG Baldomir Or Super Judah...

 

what's that, only ONE EXAMPLE?

such a shame

too bad he couldnt do what Floyd did and remain unbeaten till the age of 38

whatever Ray did, Floyd does better

 

And that is what you're argument is reduced to.

Goodbye.