GGG vs Roy Jones Jr 160~ Would GGG be able to KO Roy?

Who has GGG fought with the combination of power, blinding hand speed and athleticism of Roy? If a fighters only hope is to land a big shot and get the other guy out of there, then his odds of winning aren't very good. GGG would have to get Roy in trouble while figuring out a way to keep from getting bombed on for 12 rounds. Jones by late round stoppage all day everyday!!!

 

Jones was a beast at 160.

 

Tough one, but I'm a go with Roy Jones Jr. He was more proven.

 

Contrary to popular belief Roy Jones was better, faster and more powerful at 160 than at 168. Also Roy Jones could be hit clean but his jaw was good enough given that both Toney and Hopkins caught him a couple of times and Jones was unfazed.

I pick Jones by brutal knockout with a lead left hook.

 

Roy fought heavyweights in actual title fights. Ruiz is surely far superior to any heavyweight GGG has ever sparred.

 

Thomas Tate wasn't worth a crap?:huh

I recall him going 12 with "savage" puncher Julian Jackson but couldn't last 2 with Roy. Does that put into perspective for you how much of a beast Jones was at MW?

Comparing unproven GGG to him is bull****.. How many fighters has GGG beat worth a crap?

And you take this "savage" puncher thing too seriously.. It is professional boxing, Roy fought over 4 weight classes, you can bet he fought some fighters that can end your night with a punch.

Ask Michael Nunn if James Toney is a "savage" puncher... He sure was messed up by a single shot.

 

You're asking how would a 32 year old Golovkin - in his physical prime - fare against a guy who left middleweight for higher weight divisions and bigger challenges when he was just 25 years old?

You're asking how would a prime but untested 32 year old (yet to fight a single fighter with a pulse) would do against Roy when he was a middleweight (which for Jones was between 21 and 25 years of age)?

Pretty hard to reconcile the different career arcs. While Golovkin (179 cm) and RJJ (180 cm) are similar in size it really is difficult put this fight on a reasonable footing. For example, what happens if we took the 32 year old RJJ and imagined him in ring with the the 25 year old Golovkin of three professional fights?

Since one fighter moved up multiple weight classes (actually from 154 all the way to a one-off at heavy vs Ruiz) and is an ATG with some of the best physical abilities ever and the other is 32 and just starting to fight middleweights in the past year it is pretty ludicrous to even compare them. Yes, if Roy had weights in his shoes and both hands tied behind his back the 32 year old Golovkin could surely get a KO over the 21-25 year old middle weight version of young Roy. Other than that? Probably not. Why? Because if he was on Roy's level one can say that he would have already moved up years ago to find bigger challenges - like Roy did - instead of being 32 and a just a year from fighting 154 lbers asked to move up to 160.

Like most, I would like to see Golovkin have some great battles with good competition and be successful (the sport is so dismal anytime anyone has even a little talent we hope they can make an impact). But, until it happens, you might as well ask if Golovkin could KO Felix Sturm as that is his proven level at the moment and a more reasonable question.

Leave RJJ for fantasy comparisons against the greats of the past. He has already proven that before he came down from heavy he was unbeatable. Nothing else can be convincingly asserted. Losing in his old age and after the the Ruiz fight means nothing. In his prime he would have embarrassed Denis Lebedev, Danny Green, and Joe Calzaghe on the same night after playing basketball and without having to exert a whole lot of effort.

Regarding PEDs .. not a simple issue either. You pretty much can't find a single professional sport, country, or athlete that can be certified as entirely "clean" as athletes have been supplementing their conditioning and training throughout the modern era. Picking who was clean, who was not, who did it for the shortest time and stopped, and even the probability that some athletes considered absolutely clean may have not been for a brief time and no one ever knew or suspected, is all impossible to know with any certainty. You can't open that door without discovering you missed a lot of other athletes who did exactly the same thing (just that a lot of these athletes were never very talented in the first place) and all of these athletes thus competed against other athletes on PEDs and it was a level playing field.


If RJJ's career is invalidated then the exact same attribution can be made for Wlad's, for example. Who can say how all records and accomplishments for every single professional sport throughout the 90s - for example - should be adjudicated? PEDs have been a reality across the board.

Obviously, one difference is that Roy in the Olympics and in '89 - '90 was already incomparably fast and amazingly quick. PEDs had nothing to do with that. He was simply born with innate talent and considerable athleticism.

 

Outstanding post.good

 

I tell you this boy Chicano - go get a job boy, go get a nice gurl boy, go get some leisure other than GGG boy or else... yeah, you gonna end up talking with your own **** and creating a world of your own where GGG beats up everybody. We gat some internal cases of catatonic schizofrenia related with Joe Calzaghe and it ain't good!!! LLet me tell you after James Toney, Roy misses with some wild left hooks but eventually lands one in the first 3 minutes and it's that Montell Griffin story all ova again. GGG stretched and ready to go for examination and you know when a man is not aware of himself, they examine everything and maybe leave the boy back in the hood for a lil while, get what I mean?

 

What bigger challenges? :huh

Jones didn't fight any of them. He didn't fight DM he didn't fight Lennox Lewis he didn't fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Nunn, or McClellen. He did fight Otis Grant, Richard Hall, Richard Frazier and Glen Kelly. Are those the 'bigger' challenges you are talking about? Jones was NEVER THE champion in any weight class he fought in. Ever. Why? Because he refused to make the big fights. When he did get to Calzaghe he got obliterated in a one sided fight. Guess he was expecting Otis Grant to show up instead? :rofl

 

No. But then again you have to know some things about technical and tactical aspects of boxing. Screaming boxrec statistics like boxing is math and glass jawing with capital letters isnt going to cut it.

 

Spot on. GGG is a savage puncher.

 

What bigger challenges?atsch

He moved out of MW and fought undefeated World Champion James Toney at SMW, who was considered a dangerous puncher, one of the best fighters alive, and a real threat to Roy.

This would be the equivalent of GGG moving up to 168 and fighting Ward.:deal Actually Toney was probably a more risky fight, as Ward isn't really a dangerous puncher.

You should think a second before you ask stupid questions..

GGG has not taken NEAR as many risks as Roy Jones and is quite frankly not even in the same conversation.. Even a Jones hater like yourself should be able to realize this, but I wont count on it.:hi: