Henry Armstrong and Floyd Mayweather switch eras

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What if Floyd was fighting under that circumstances?
    Having 15-20 fights per year with no possibility to get ready for certain opponent during few months? Having almost 200 fights total?

    What would've been his record? How many losses?

    And Armstrong, imagine him fighting 1-2 times per year after winning title, having less than 50 bouts in total and being able to train 3-4 months for every opponent? Do you think he would've been undefeated?
     
  2. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Henry's era was deep and thick but the experience he gained is tough to get these days. Floyd has a lot of natural talent and better schooled than most fighters today so I think he would fair well but can you imagine bringing Hank to present times...he would be a phenomenon
     
  3. Unforgiven

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    Mayweather probably would have developed into a better fighter under 1930s conditions. But his standard of living would have taken a fall, and his quality of life.
     
  4. thistle1

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    he, Floyd, would also have been a WW cum MW and 'maybe' not even a WW at all.
     
  5. I Know Everythi

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    Floyd would never be a champion

    Armstrong would beat everyone from 126 to 154 and probably a few at 160
     
  6. LittleRed

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    Floyd would've been a lightweight and then a welterweight. He wasn't much of a weight cutter.
     
  7. Drew101

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    Conversely, give Armstrong the chance to weight cut, and he becomes a freaking beast at 122 and 126, at least for a while.
     
  8. thistle1

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    NO "when in Rome."

    the times were SO different a 5'8" medium to large build Floyd, even turning pro as a slight 16 year old (which many did), would have Blinked through LW, a few years at WW and would have levelled of as a MW.

    just like MOST of his peers at their various weights.

    180lb men aren't fighting 25-40lbs below because they've got months to do so. No Floyd and his size in that era would have been a WW cum MW.


    It is Rome the Opening Post is talking about here.
     
  9. LittleRed

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    Forgetting 122 I think Armstrong could have won titles from bantamweight to junior middleweight.
    Floyd has never been a weight cutter though. Saddlers was 5'8.5" and he was a featherweight. Ike Williams was 5'9.5" as a lightweight. Bob Montgomery and Sammy Angott were both 5'8". For his first lightweight title fight (6 years and nearly 30 fights into his career) Mayweather weighed 138 or less, ringside. He was 136 against Corrales arguably his peak performance. I see no way he would be heavier; in fact odds are he would be lighter.
     
  10. thistle1

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    I highlighted like MOST fighters of that Era...

    and Floyd only fought at those weights because he fought in an Era that "Allowed" him to do so. In the past it wouldn't even have occurred to him or anyone around him to fight 30lbs give or take lighter, they just didn't do it!

    in fact they looked UP (fighting heavier), not down!
     
  11. tennis

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    Armstrong basically becomes pacquiao without the losses

    Except he wouldn't duck pacquiao and that's when he loses
     
  12. perko

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    Hommicide Hank versus Pac Man - only one result Pac loses heavily.
     
  13. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This. More chance to hone his skills against other skilled fighters.
     
  14. LittleRed

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    I literally don't know what you mean. But I should note that Mayweather gave up significant weight to guys like Castillo, Alvarez, Corrales, and Maidana so he was willing to mix it up with much bigger men.
     
  15. rossco666

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    Mayweather's heart might not cut it in those days. All those fights, great era of nails boxers that he couldn't duck. No cherry picking or advantage gainig in those days for PBF.
    If his heart did cut it he would be better than he is today but would have more than a few loses to boot.

    Armstrong would **** up everybody in Floyds era, he would lay a path of destruction going up the weights. He was a relentless force of nature. A freak.