FRoch is the marciano of this era

Get the f*ck out of here. Rocky was not a defensive wizard, but he was NOT a face first fighter.

Moreover, he carried a hell of a lot more thunder than Froch, pound for pound, and had power in both hands.

Rocky is an ATG. Froch is a belt holder. Period.

 

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Oh dear.

 

He has underrated boxing skill and underrated ring iq

 

i totally agree ts. this man is as close to modern day marciano as you can get.

 

no Rocky is far from all time great

Rocky Marciano is perhaps the most overrated HW aside from the Klitschkos. Overrated doesnt mean bad, it means that people give him more praise than he deserves. Being 49-0 in itself does not make you an all time great - just ask Brian Nielsen.

Let's look at Marciano's so-called "impressive" wins.

1) Joe Louis - in his prime, Joe Louis was one of the baddest dudes in boxing. But he had to take this fight because of IRS problems, and was a shell of his former self. The Joe Louis that KO Schmeling in one round would have beaten Rocky easy. This is not a win that makes someone into an all time great boxer.

2) Jersey Joe Walcott (x2) - Jersey Joe's two fights vs Rocky were the last two of his career - he was a washed up fighter at this point at 38 yrs old. He had already been in crazy fights with Louis and Charles, so beating up an old man past his prime is not impressive - especially considering the whooping that Rocky took in the first fight before the blind squirrel found an acorn and knocked out Jersey Joe

3) Roland LaStarza - had a padded record just like Rocky. Not impressive

4) Ezzard Charles - already been in tough fights with Louis and Walcott, way past his best and had over 100 fights. Rocky was too concerned with keeping his "0" so he only fought 49 times in an era where the best were good enough to keep going. And Rocky still struggled to beat this old man twice.

5) Archie Moore - was an old geezer at 39 yrs old by the time he got to Rocky. Is it impressive for a supposedly "all time great" to beat an old man with 19 losses at the time, who had already been through countless beatings? No. And Rocky still got knocked down by a natural light heavyweight old geezer.
I know certain people have prepared foolish arguments to defend Rocky's farce of a career, and I will dismantle them right now.

1) Rocky is 49-0 can't argue with that - Actually, yes you can. Fighting 49 bums/old people and winning is not impressive. Nielsen was 49-0 at one point. Joe Calzaghe was 46-0 (actually 45-1 cuz he got a terrible gift vs Hopkins). Padded records are meaningless. There is no undefeated fighter that is worthy of a top 45 p4p ranking (Mayweather is the best undefeated fighter - and he definitely does not deserve a spot in the top 45). Rocky is no different, and he is not a top 15 HW all time and not a top 50 p4p boxer all time. If Pinklon Thomas retired after beating Mike Weaver, he would have been undefeated - would you consider that to be the mark of an all time great? No

2) Rocky was so tough/had a great chin - Saying someone is tough is just another way of saying they are good at taking a beating. Just like he took a beating vs Walcott before becoming a blind squirrel that stumbled upon an acorn in the form of a KO. David Tua and Oliver McCall had great chins, but they were not all time greats.

3) Well there is no other HW champ that was undefeated - well Rocky fought bums and the great HW champs of all time didn't. Thats the difference. Rocky never fought someone on the level of Dempsey, Jack Johnson, prime Joe Louis, Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, or even guys like Jimmy Young or Earnie Shavers. weak competition does not = greatness. And so what if he was champ? He only had 6 title defenses. All against BUMS or senior citizens well past their primes

All these HWs in NO PARTICULAR ORDER are better than Rocky the Bum Marciano

1. Ali
2. Frazier
3. Foreman
4. Holmes
5. Jack Johnson
6. Bowe
7. Holyfield
8. Lennox
9. Joe Louis
10. Tyson
11. Dempsey
12. Tunney
13. Sonny Liston
14. Harry Wills
15. Sam Langford
16. Ken Norton
17. Sam McVey
18. Jimmy Young - because he fought actual competition
19. Moore
20. Walcott
21. Charles


Larry Holmes was 100% right. Rocky can't carry his jockstrap cuz he's a BUM with a padded fake record against BUMS and old people.

 

marciano had a fair few one punch k.o's., but most were as a result odf an accumilation of punches

 

No, that's Provodnikov

people calls him the siberian rocky for a reason

 

There are some similarities.

 

Yeh, him too.

 

They both had subtle skills, that get overlooked due to being ugly/awkward

Froch has a good chin, not a granite one. People act like he's Jake LaMotta or something.

 

froch has a granite chin no doubts. he blocks punches with it

 

:deal

 

You're stupidity and utter lack of objectivity is breath taking.

At any catch weight you like, Marciano mops the floor with Froch.

Now f*ck off.

 

Yeah he beats Froch and was not a bum like that guy said but was Marciano really that good?