Pacquiao, Marquez, and drug testing...

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  1. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Not trying to start a "war" here but this has been bugging me. I'm seeing people (Pacquiao fans in particular) say "Marquez wanted a 5th Pacquiao fight until additional VADA tests were brought up." There are a few points to be made here and peoples accusations of Marquez.

    Pacquiao refused to fight Mayweather over random blood tests. He only "agreed" when he had a fight signed and was promoting it. This is hypocrisy. How is Marquez's refusal, if you can even call it that, any different than Pacquiao's?

    How can you call Marquez scared? He arguably won at LEAST 2 out of the first 3 fights. People says a judge miss-scored the first fight and forgot a knockdown for Pacquiao in the 1st round, wouldn't that mean Marquez won more rounds?

    My point is for Pacquiao fans or people who think Marquez is dirty. It's hypocritical to cast suspicion on Marquez but not Pacquiao. I for one am suspicious of both but until there's something concrete, I have to say they're both clean.

    Please debate because I'd love to hear some reasonable, non-hateful comments.
     
  2. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They are both clean until they get caught. I have suspicions, but what are suspicions without evidence?
     
  3. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marquez has NEVER denied testing against Pacquiao. Pacquiao is the one who denied RBT when Marquez called his bluff. FACT!

    It's all ******* conjecture at this point. They point to Bradley fight, but that was not Pacquiao was it? Has there been anything official that Arum even contacted JMM for a fifth fight? It's all public hearsay.
     
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  4. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Marquez said he'd take the test as long as PAC took them too

    PAC said "I'm just kidding. No testing needed"
     
  5. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Unless you're saying that you are suspicious of all athletes equally or whatever, then you are saying you have special suspicion of them. And, that would be precisely because of facts you feel could be taken as evidence since that what evidence is. Proof is what we don't have, we have enough evidence that's it's fueled these conversation's for over 5yrs.
     
  6. modernfonzie

    modernfonzie Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice soliloquy. I agree with everything you just said, but don't try to rationalize with Pac fans.
     
  7. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  8. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Reasonable response from *******s? Lol good luck.

    I agree with you though. *******s only praise vada because its what pacquiao used. No other reason aside from that. Also *******s tend to leave out that victor conte ( worked with memo) also works for vada. So the same arguments they make about usada not being trustable can be said for vada.

    I think jmm wont work with vada because of conte. Its conflict of interest.

    Any who thats what I think.
     
  9. FloatingGhost

    FloatingGhost Some guy Full Member

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    Haha. Just a bunch of dumb asses throwing the word ******* around or trying to sound unbiased like the op while really sounding like a severe pacquiao hater. Or in other words a hardcore floyd **** rider. Your thinly veiled attempts at being unbiased have failed.
     
  10. Knives7

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    Pacquiao never refused any drug test. So, no there is nothing hypocritical about Pac or Pac's team asking Marquez to have a drug test.
     
  11. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    i wish pac can get memo to bulk him up to 154 with acne all over so he can beat canelo then sergio.
     
  12. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    it is too funny to watch the 'tards get all mad at jmm...roidquez and all that bull****....it really does make me laugh.....i actually feel sorry for you guys....you can accept that jmm is your heros father
     
  13. shinkuhadoken

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    It is so funny the *****s using marquez to throw mud at paquiao. To modernpatsy you ****. Don't ever use rationalize. There is nothing rational with you *****
     
  14. The Shockmaster

    The Shockmaster SOG has 4 children...he pulls out of nothing banned Full Member

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    "*****s" dont need jmm to throw mud at pac.....jmm took a big dump on pac.....theres no need to throw mud at pac....he got a steaming pile of butt mudd plopped right on his face by jmm.....right after they peeled his face off the canvas
     
  15. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Here is ******* subject A , notice he does not bother to answer the question and instead make insults. Huge symptom of *******isim.