How much of conditioning is genetic?

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by TheExpertboxer, May 25, 2014.


  1. TVLPC

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    I have a master's degree and can't begin to understand this. What are you trying to say or dispute in simple terms. Also, I like your posts.
     
  2. TVLPC

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    Also, I will be highly upset if you no longer post on here. In being honest they are quite "wordy" but entertaining nonetheless!:thumbsup
     
  3. closedguard

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    Thank you I have a PHD, sorry for getting carried away virus angered me with his babbling **** actually he reminds me of Cliff Clavin. To put it simply I don't want young boxers to over train and this why I am here too aid and assist.
     
  4. ant-man

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    What about wall sits? :think
     
  5. closedguard

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    well I don't see any difference between body weight and a barbell however with wall sits you may have to do more reps than with a 100 pound squat. I would prefer that you performed free weight squats, split squats, and lunges performed with perfect form are all better choices for working your legs and protecting your knees. Again
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  6. viru§™

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    Nope.

    Haha. No.

    :roll: Seriously?

    Because I have pointed out you're a moron I must be unemployed! Wrong again, Bob.

    This makes no sense. You type out utter bull****, I point out you're wrong so the British enducational system failed me? :patsch

    What in the **** are you rambling on about now?

    I thought you had joined another forum and wouldn't post again?
     
  7. viru§™

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    Haha. If you had a PHD or any decent knowledge, you wouldn't get angry at me, you'd post up proof to prove I'm incorrect. You've never been able to show where I'm wrong, all you've done is throw out pathetic insults and get upset like a little girl.
     
  8. TVLPC

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    I'm not quite sure what is meant by this. Boxers rely heavily on both aerobic and anaerobic processes but the cardiovascular system is the engine that makes everything go, even in eliminating anaerobic "byproducts."
     
  9. viru§™

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    Another guy with with almost no posts talking ****. So many fake accounts on this forum it's ridiculous.
     
  10. viru§™

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    Hmmm. Trolling fail.
     
  11. closedguard

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    I have only one account! This is my 24th year in my career; what vexes me is when a coach tells his fighter to do more cardio after loosing a fight. As if more cardio = mobility.
     
  12. viru§™

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    :lol::lol::lol: Go for it, mate.
     
  13. TVLPC

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    Explain the context you are using when you say mobility.
     
  14. closedguard

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    By pounding the pavement ask your self what good is that really doing? Studies show that for weight loss it's not doing much at all and for ant-aging it's causing harm.
    (foot note poor balance is associated with ageing) So then what do we do what is the answer? The answer is short interval intensity training or bursting the best thing about it is that you only spend 10 minutes 3 times a week this gets you the weight loss and it doesn't prematurely age you. Let me explain why long distance training builds up oxydative stress that the body has to combat this actually ages you at the cellular level; the key to anti-ageing is fixing the cell by controlling the inflammation and oxydative stress which long distance training increases the oxydative stress however your body can deal with short term stress since it's healthy the problem being when it becomes chronic now ageing excellerates. So again let return to evolutionary survival mechanisms of fight or flight- here lies the crux of the problem in long distance exercises the hormones that involved in weight loss and anti-ageing go in the wrong direction for example by lowering of the growth hormone and testosterone for 36 hours, but here's the great remedy by lowering your bursts to 20-30 seconds elevates GH, Testosterone levels for 36 hours. Biggest problem to fat loss is that your burning muscle resulting in lowering of metabolism, growth hormone, and testosterone (can you see why Virus bothers me he's disseminating a dangerous meme that long training is beneficial). Now lets take the opposite; studies show that HIT raises growth hormone and testosterone levels for 36 hours as well as burning fat and your body is going to benefit from the short term oxydative stress. Sorry for being so wordy.
     
  15. TVLPC

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    Not trying to be difficult, but I don't understand how this relates to mobility.

    Nonetheless, I advocate and know that there is nothing wrong with steady state work, 30-45minutes, with HR between 130-150bpm. It can be used for active recovery(which can be very useful if one is training at a boxing gym intensely) as well as places a different type of adaptation on the heart and can be used to build an aerobic base. Interval work is important also and has it's place as well, and both can be used if programmed properly.

    Boxers should not be training like extreme endurance athletes such as marathon runners and the like, that is my idea of real long distance work, and many combat athletes don't just run, they swim, bicycle, etc.

    I really haven't heard Virus advocate or discourage LSD work. I know that Joel Jamieson is a well sought out MMA Strength and conditioning trainer and really advocates for it, and I have used it very effectively in my training, as well as intervals.